Muscle and Brawn Forums
 

Go Back   Muscle and Brawn Forums > Training > Muscle Building and Bodybuilding
Mark Forums Read
Register Articles Members List Search Today's Posts

Notices

Muscle Building and Bodybuilding Topics related to muscle building, bodybuilding, including training and fullbody workouts. If you are looking for great advice on gaining muscle this forum is for you.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-21-2014, 08:14 PM   #1
SCStrong
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40
Activity: 25% Activity: 25% Activity: 25%
 
SCStrong's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Inside the dark abyss of my mind
Posts: 1,952
Training Exp: One more than last year
Training Type: Fullbody
Fav Exercise: The ones that make me cry
Fav Supp: Beer; Milk is for Babies
Reputation: 118964
SCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master member
Default Need a program for my daughter - has spinal scoliosis

Ok guys and gals - My youngest daughter is 17 and has expressed real interest in beginning to weight train.... I am so proud BUT

Two and a half years ago she had titanium rods inserted into her spinal column to treat advanced stage scoliosis ( crooked spine), Good news - the treatment was a success !! Praise the Lord!!

I need help putting together a program that does not include back squats, deads, or OHP's but that will still allow her to increase strength and learn to love the lifting lifestyle. We talked to the docs and they say she can do ALMOST everything she did before the surgery - but to avoid the " big four lifts" and do not go " too heavy".

I am thinking body weight exercises, goblets, show muscle exercise, etc but I am terrible at programming and could really use some advice.

Thanks All !!
__________________
There is no tomorrow! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Apollo Creed

Last edited by SCStrong; 08-21-2014 at 08:41 PM.
SCStrong is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-22-2014, 07:10 AM   #2
SCStrong
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40
Activity: 25% Activity: 25% Activity: 25%
 
SCStrong's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Inside the dark abyss of my mind
Posts: 1,952
Training Exp: One more than last year
Training Type: Fullbody
Fav Exercise: The ones that make me cry
Fav Supp: Beer; Milk is for Babies
Reputation: 118964
SCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master member
Default

Quite on the MAB front?
__________________
There is no tomorrow! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Apollo Creed
SCStrong is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2014, 07:20 AM   #3
Beverly McD
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 2,218, Level: 28 Points: 2,218, Level: 28 Points: 2,218, Level: 28
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%
 
Beverly McD's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 518
Training Exp: Since 1987
Training Type: Powerlifting
Reputation: 42810
Beverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machineBeverly McD is a lifting machine
Default

Not a real answer to your question, but here goes.
I know some outstanding female lifters with the same diagnosis. Steel rods and all. You may consider getting a second opinion about staying away from squats and deads.

Whatever she does, I'm sure she'll do well. Just hitting the gym will be good for her both physically and mentally. And your undivided attention will be priceless to her.
Beverly McD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2014, 09:56 AM   #4
CaseyB1987
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 2,318, Level: 29 Points: 2,318, Level: 29 Points: 2,318, Level: 29
Activity: 37% Activity: 37% Activity: 37%
 

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 662
Training Exp: 1 year
Training Type: 4 Day Split
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Food
Reputation: 22047
CaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributor
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCStrong View Post
Good news - the treatment was a success !! Praise the Lord!!

Thanks All !!
Amen to that!

I'm no trainer but what about something simple like fullbody or upper lower split? She could use machines and keep the weights lite. You could trade out squats for leg extensions & leg curls. If she used machines, she could do everything sitting down and not worry about her spine but still build up her strength.
__________________
My Training Log

Last edited by CaseyB1987; 08-22-2014 at 10:00 AM.
CaseyB1987 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #5
Shorts
Hulk Smash!
Max Brawn
Points: 3,912, Level: 39 Points: 3,912, Level: 39 Points: 3,912, Level: 39
Activity: 2% Activity: 2% Activity: 2%
 
Shorts's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 912
Training Exp: 5
Training Type: Powerlifting
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: FOOD, nom nom
Reputation: 49225
Shorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machineShorts is a lifting machine
Default

I agree with Bev, do a little bit more research about the limitations the doctor imposed. I too work with some strong females who had the same operation (successfully) and still train.
__________________

Class I Total @ 198: 525/335/600 (1460)

"No citizen has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training.... What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable."
-Socrates
Shorts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2014, 02:29 PM   #6
SCStrong
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40
Activity: 25% Activity: 25% Activity: 25%
 
SCStrong's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Inside the dark abyss of my mind
Posts: 1,952
Training Exp: One more than last year
Training Type: Fullbody
Fav Exercise: The ones that make me cry
Fav Supp: Beer; Milk is for Babies
Reputation: 118964
SCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master member
Default

Thanks for all the replies - I think will do some more research but for now I am looking for a basic starter program that does not include the big four.... I though maybe, you guys would have some old copy and paste stuff...... no worries- I will map out a few.
Thanks again!! Peace.
__________________
There is no tomorrow! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Apollo Creed
SCStrong is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 03:49 AM   #7
LindenGarcia18
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 8,417, Level: 61 Points: 8,417, Level: 61 Points: 8,417, Level: 61
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
 
LindenGarcia18's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London City UK
Posts: 1,896
Training Type: 5x5
Fav Exercise: One arm dumbbell rows.
Reputation: 69801
LindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beastLindenGarcia18 is a lifting beast
Default

Great to hear it went well.

Yes I'd certainly agree to get a second opinion there.
A ‘doctor‘ I went to see once told me I was too young to be lifting weights at all at 17.

Not to say all doctors are totally incapable of giving lifting advice, but some really don't know what they're talking about.
That's not to say this is the case with yours, but I guess it's something to be aware of.


As far as programs that don't include the big four, I think a good place to start would be the buff dudes bodyweight program on YouTube. I'll send you a link, on my tablet at the moment so I can't (or am incapable of doing so! )
From there you could modifie it to include some goblet squats etc; like you sugested.

- Linden
LindenGarcia18 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2014, 11:03 AM   #8
andycfd
Personal Trainer
New Brawn
Points: 345, Level: 6 Points: 345, Level: 6 Points: 345, Level: 6
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
 

Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 47
Training Exp: 19
Training Type: 4 Day Split
Fav Exercise: Dumbbell presses
Fav Supp: Beer
Reputation: 3672
andycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good postsandycfd has made some very good posts
Default

I have worked with clients affected by scoliosis in the past to great success. Your idea of a routine incorporating body weight exercises is a good one, but you'll need to start with some corrective flexibility. She's very likely to have tight hamstrings, glutes, TFLs, etc. These must be stretched and or worked on depending upon the severity of the tightness. Once you get a start on that. I'd immediately get some gentle core work done. Most all patients with scoliosis have underdeveloped core muscles as engagement can often be problematic. start gently and build is the rule of thumb. You'll be surprised how quickly things progress. Once the hip complex is loose and some core strength has been established, try some half range working to full range body weight squats. Lunges will be good too, but please get he hips loose beforehand or you'll be exacerbating her imbalances and not doing her back any favors. Start gently and methodically and work up from there.
__________________
Andy Bruchey
Complete Fitness Design
http://www.completefitnessdesign.com
andycfd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2014, 03:06 PM   #9
SCStrong
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40 Points: 4,116, Level: 40
Activity: 25% Activity: 25% Activity: 25%
 
SCStrong's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Inside the dark abyss of my mind
Posts: 1,952
Training Exp: One more than last year
Training Type: Fullbody
Fav Exercise: The ones that make me cry
Fav Supp: Beer; Milk is for Babies
Reputation: 118964
SCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master memberSCStrong is a master member
Default

50000000000 replies ...... not one work out in the buch ha ha ha

just kidding - thanks for all the input
__________________
There is no tomorrow! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Apollo Creed
SCStrong is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2014, 07:16 PM   #10
CaseyB1987
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 2,318, Level: 29 Points: 2,318, Level: 29 Points: 2,318, Level: 29
Activity: 37% Activity: 37% Activity: 37%
 

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 662
Training Exp: 1 year
Training Type: 4 Day Split
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Food
Reputation: 22047
CaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributorCaseyB1987 is a dedicated contributor
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCStrong View Post
50000000000 replies ...... not one work out in the buch ha ha ha

just kidding - thanks for all the input
we suck and we know it....lol

I hope you find some kind of routine that works for her, I think lifting weights would really help strengthen her body and her spirit. I cant imagine what she's had to go through. Good luck
__________________
My Training Log
CaseyB1987 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
female bodybuilding, scoliosis, teenage


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question About Scoliosis Cutty General Board 1 11-11-2013 10:23 PM
Possible Spinal Problems? Davis General Fitness & Health 8 11-06-2013 12:53 AM
Core Work: Spinal Flexion or No? BendtheBar General Fitness & Health 14 09-16-2012 05:37 PM
Scoliosis WoollyMammoth General Fitness & Health 6 02-01-2011 02:12 AM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.