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Mrinda87 12-29-2013 09:47 PM

Interesting article I just found...
 
http://criticalmas.com/2012/06/i-no-...out-the-squat/. Also this one... http://www.thedreamlounge.net/barbel...orst-exercise/.

Dray 12-29-2013 10:40 PM

I'm not convinced.

As far as I can tell? Reasonable programming, progressive overload and attention to form, will generally ensure that the entire back (along with all or most other muscle groups, connective tissues, and bones) is strengthened over time.

Unfortunately, I believe quite a few people getting into the lifting of weights don't know how to brace properly (and not just "the core", that is) - and they never find out, which means things will probably go one of two ways: 1) they give it up as a bad idea before they seriously injure themselves; or 2) they seriously injure themselves.

So for some people out there, I suppose those two guys have a point. For everyone else though, I don't believe they do.

BigJosh 12-29-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrinda87 (Post 441761)

My anti virus is blocking the second URL you posted and stating that it is dangerous. Just FYI.

BigJosh 12-29-2013 11:16 PM

I'm not going to bite into this too much. This is a complex discussion IMO and I'm afraid it will get turned into a black and white issue, which I feel it is not.
However I will say I think it's funny that the guy uses a video of an Ed Coan 975lb raw squat to help illustrate his point. It makes no sense to use this video for other than shock value for the following reasons:
1.) the article seems to be written towards the average gym goer, not the elite level powerlifter with a 900lb+ raw squat. I gurantee 98% of the people reading that article, let alone squating in the gym never even piss at a 975lbs squats general direction (probably not many over 400lbs in all reality)
2.) The article specifically is addressing back injuries, yet in that video, Ed Coan is not injuring his back, rather his knee.
3.) This article is not worthy of Ed Coan.

CODY_SNIDER 12-29-2013 11:18 PM

Thanks for posting this! Light quad extensions and hamstring curls for me from now on.

BendtheBar 12-30-2013 02:01 AM

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Yes so dangerous. VERY dangerous. Blah, blah, blah. Masturbate and you'll go blind kids! Squat and you'll die!

fenrisulfr 12-30-2013 02:04 AM

100% of people who squat will someday die.

Squatting = death

big_swede 12-30-2013 02:17 AM

http://criticalmas.com/i/mas-elephant.jpg

This is a picture of the author of the article.

Look at the feminine jaw-line, the puffy lips that only serves one purpose and the lack of facial hair.

This is a girly-man, and he is also very scared off pain and progress. But yes, I take his advice on training anyday!

Ramrod 12-30-2013 02:29 AM

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I.e. if you start squatting from a young age, and continue this over a lifetime like Mr. Rippetoe would have you do, the chance of an injury happening approaches 100%. It becomes inevitable.
Haha.... I've been squatting for 13yrs and never been really injured from squatting. I better stop walking too... B/c over my lifetime.. I'm going to trip and fall and hurt myself.. it's 100% going to happen.

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But does everyone actually squat in a rack when available?

No. Iíve been to enough gyms and seen hundreds of people perform a barbell squat outside of a standard squat rack, or even a smith machine.
How do you squat out of a Smith machine? Besides.. everyone knows you can't squat on a smith rack...:)

skids 12-30-2013 02:38 AM

The poor man is deluded.


Get into these :ex12:


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