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Old 09-15-2013, 04:45 PM   #1
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So some of you will have seen my 2 month in progress pictures.

Really appreciate the kind words, youv'e boosted my confidence allot, I thought you wouldn't think I'd done very well.


As ou can see, what you said would happen about the fat gain,did.

I haven't gained any visible fat, and I'm looking better than I did before.


However I'm two months in now, and noob gains don't last forever.

Not that they'll just stop now, or even that they've stopped at all, but now that I've been at it for a couple of months, does this mean that my gains will slowly be deteriorating?

Will I now notice that in the NEXT two months, I won't have added as much muscle as I did this time 2 months into the program?

Reason I ask is because that effects fat gain. The reason I haven't gained visible fat like you said I wouldn't is because I've added more muscle than I have hat, and I have a very high metabolism because I'm a teen ager.

Obviously as you get more and more into training, and as the ,months go buy I assume those lines blur, (The ones between muscle and fat gain ratio), and the fat starts to notice.



I've been really pleased with the way things have turned out so far, in terms of the fat gain thing, and if it continues like this it'd be fantastic. I'm just not sure weather it will.

Most peoples noob gains last a year, so should I continue to not look fatter for my first year?

Or is it downhill from here.

Thanks again for the responses, meant allot


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It's not all downhill from here

Train smart, eat smart, just as you've already been doing and the progress should be similar. Nobody will be able to say when newbie gains cease, it's different for everyone.

You know enough now to be able to tweak things slightly, not right now but much further down the line, if you feel things aren't going the way you want them to.
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There are tons of bodybuilders out there who never really got fat at all, even during a "bulk". They got freagin' HUGE by slowly adding mass, and they did that by eating enough to gain 20lb in 2 months, 40lb in a year, 80lb in 5 years, and 120lb in 10 years.

It's all about consistency and letting the program work. Don't change a thing for now. Chances are that if you do things right (which you're already doing), you'll have years and years of gains to come doing exactly what you're doing.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:07 PM   #4
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I don't know what to think anymore.

This morning I measured my waist and had gained an inch when I thought I hadn't gained any visible fat.

An inch is nothing now but if my diet is causing me to put on and inch in 2 months, thats 3 inches in 6.

6 inches in a year in a year.


I was hoping the whole idea about gaining muscle and staying the same body fat percentage like allot of teens do was going to work for my, but its not looking that way now.


Yes I can tweak as I go along, but if I am in fact gaining visible fat, I'm going to have to tweak it to some ridiculously low surplus in order that I don't,
To which then there'd be barely any point.



I just don't really know what to think now.

On the one hand I'm making good progress in terms of muscle gains, but I just can't carry on knowing I'm gaining inches almost monthly to my waist.



I was really hoping my noobie gains would take me up to a good year without starting to gain bodyfat %, but perhaps my body just doesn't work that way, which is a tremendous let down.


Of course, I don't know if any of this is correct.

There could be another explanation for gaining an inch to my waist.

I used a different tape measure before, water retention, etc;


Really I have no idea though.

I really thought I'd taken a turn for the better with this fat gain worry but I think its back.



I understand if everyone will be annoyed with me now after this post.

Yes, once again I'm banging on about fat gain.

I know I have an unhealthy obsession with it. But I was really working on that and it had gotten so much better.

Just a let down after The great responses from people yesterday.

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Different tape measure, possibly...tape measures come in several forms: the sort you use for construction, they have no give in them and you can't use them for waist measurements anyway; then there are material tapes, they CAN stretch; then there are plastic coated style tapes, they don't stretch.

That aside, are you measuring the same place each time, across the belly button, if you're slightly off your measurement area, it will make a great difference even if there's little difference...so, did you measure around the same line as before?
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In what world can you make 100% lean gains? I want to live there. Linden just eat and lift - if you get fat eat a little less. If you do not grow- eat a little more. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAN!!!
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You still aren't even past puberty. Your bones and tendons and everything else are still growing. You aren't even man-sized yet. Just because something is growing doesn't mean it's all fat.

In addition, your waist is not all fat and bone. You have back and ab muscles that are growing.

Use the mirror as your judge.

Also, you have barely tapped into gains. You have 22 to 34 months of crazy gains left. Relax. Keep doing what you're doing and stop with this "I am getting fat" nonsense.

You look 100x better than you did 2 months ago. Trust the process.
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You still aren't even past puberty. Your bones and tendons and everything else are still growing. You aren't even man-sized yet. Just because something is growing doesn't mean it's all fat.

In addition, your waist is not all fat and bone. You have back and ab muscles that are growing.

Use the mirror as your judge.

Also, you have barely tapped into gains. You have 22 to 34 months of crazy gains left. Relax. Keep doing what you're doing and stop with this "I am getting fat" nonsense.

You look 100x better than you did 2 months ago. Trust the process.


So by that account I assume if my gains are still at peak for a while yet, I wont be experiencing them slowing down anytime soon, and so the adding quality muscle while staying the same bf % thing still stands, correct?

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Continuing the conversation from the shout box: you need to admit the depth of this issue and really talk to your parents. Saying you can't go on is a strong statement.
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I agree with Steve on this one. LInden you need to talk to your parents and get some help. It is not normal to obsess the way that you do, over any weight gain and / or fat gain.

You will not stay cut all the time- it will not happen without chemcal assistance.

We all get older - we all gain weight- we all lose weight. Hell, even Arnold got fat at one point... it is not the end of the world.

You have made good progress keep on eating and lifting.

I don't know anything about OCD type issues but I do know that lifting and growing are not that complcated.

Difficult, yes complicated, no. Don't try to make them that way.

Trust (and enjoy) the process.

If the iron game is that hellish to you perhaps, you need to consider a new path. It is not the be all end all. It is suppossed to be fun.

Good luck and happy lifting.
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