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Old 07-05-2009, 04:46 PM   #1
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Default Natural Limits versus Steroids

I am having a conversation on several different forums about natural limits. Read the following article for more info.

http://muscleandbrawn.com/2009/01/de...ing-potential/

Basically, when presented with natural limits, naturals LOVE to claim that they can exceed these limits with hard work. Here is my statement on this "belief."

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Everyone says it's possible, but no one can find proof. And the guys that do say their "legs are bigger' then predicted have 20% bodyfat and/or are not using the formula correctly.

My arms are bigger then the prediction at the moment, but I also have 25%+ bodyfat as well.

I know this has been beaten do death but Arnold was 6'2", 235, and his bodyfat wasn't 4-6% like the current competitors, or whatever crazy amount they have.

Arnold 6'2" 235 ...8% bodyfat
Franco 5'5" 185 ...8% bodyfat

If you split that difference between these 2 muscular steroid users, you get (about)...

Average Joe...5'10" 210 ...8% bodyfat.

Here is a comparison between my natural predictions (roughly) and the stats of an uber bodybuilder somewhere between Arnold and Franco...

Steve Shaw
5'10"
178 Pounds Lean Muscle
Weight: 240
Maximum natural potential is around 180-181, so I could still gain a few pounds.

Average Steroid Joe
5'10"
210 pounds
8% bodyfat
193.2 Pounds Lean Muscle

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What does this tell us?
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That a steroid user from the Arnold/Franco era only had about 15 pounds of lean muscle on a natural champion. IF it is possible to surpass natural limits, then it is being stated that...

It's possible to become Arnold/Franco-esque WITHOUT steroids.

I can't believe people buy into this this.
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