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Old 06-23-2013, 10:44 AM   #1
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I'm still doing something wrong.

The problem is that the weight I can lift each workout is iritic.

2 workouts ago I could bench 50kg for 5 sets of 5, while inn yesterdays workout, I couldn't do anywhere near that, and had to drop the weight some every set.

A similar thing happened with barbell rows. I could lift allot heavier weight for 5x5 last time, yet this time, like the bench pressing, I had to keep dropping the weight.


I understand I'll have off days, but this seems to be happening quite often.

There was a period of about 3 weeks where everything was going great in terms of progression, and now every things just messed up somehow.

I've been doing all the things you told me to do, progressing very slowly, but despite this, the problems still present.
I used the weighted bags on the end of the barbell weighing a pound each side like you told me, but its still happening, and I've dropped the weight down several times and nothing seems to work, I just can't seem to progress easily like you guys do, no matter how slowly I approach doing it.


What do you recommend I do?

Its really getting on my nerves because like you said, if the lifting isn't right, non of this matters. All the food I'll be eating won't be going to my muscles, and I won't be making any progress if I'm not getting stronger.

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Do you have any videos of the lifts? I had a major problem with overthinking rows for a while. I would make it to around 185 or so, and everything would fall apart. Did that several times. After focusing on being explosive and not worrying if a moved a LITTLE on the row, I'm hitting 260+ for reps.

BtB can explain the explosion on rows better than I can, but I'm wondering if you have a similar issue, as the weight starts to feel heavier, to you start thinking about it and get to the point where you psych yourself out.
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Do you have any videos of the lifts? I had a major problem with overthinking rows for a while. I would make it to around 185 or so, and everything would fall apart. Did that several times. After focusing on being explosive and not worrying if a moved a LITTLE on the row, I'm hitting 260+ for reps.

BtB can explain the explosion on rows better than I can, but I'm wondering if you have a similar issue, as the weight starts to feel heavier, to you start thinking about it and get to the point where you psych yourself out.


I don't have any videos, but I see what you mean, and I think that could be what's happening, part of the problem anyway.
I think it was getting to the point where I was psyching myself out.

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Not progressing at your experience level is usually a symptom of not getting enough calories.
In other words, it may simply be you aren't eating enough.
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There are a million different things that might be going on. First, know that this is normal. Most people don't notice it because they don't worry about progression. Anybody who has ever tried to consistently add weight to their lifts will notice very quickly that different days will give different results.

It definitely could be a form thing. With certain lifts as you continue to add weight you will inevitably have changes in how "clean" your form is. You have to keep learning about form and figuring out what works for you, as well as learning when to stop adding weight the certain lifts because your form is getting to far off.

There are also nutritional considerations. I am personally very sensitive to how many carbs I've had. When I hit the heaviest squat I've ever hit I had been to a party the day before and had about a million grams of carbs. Meanwhile if I go even a couple days without carbs my lifts drop dramatically and I feel weak and lethargic.

Even hormones play a role. Sometimes you might just be feeling down, not as confident as usual just because your hormones are a little off that day, and that's enough to effect how much weight goes on the bar as well.

Don't worry, if your lifting hard and giving it everything you have on that particular day then you're still building muscle and getting stronger. Just stay consistent and try not to lose heart.
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Lee and I have been trying to help you with this for quite some time. I'm glad you are finally seeking out help with the all-important lifting.

What I see from following your journal (when you actually post your workouts) is that you are always trying to find that weight that allows the perfect amount of reps and sets. That is NOT the way to do it when you first start. You are just constantly bumping your head against the ceiling with no room to move up, eventually you will fall.

When I say to start light, I mean ridiculously light. I mean it has to be so light that you will have absolutely no problems adding 2.5 to 5 lbs every week for a month and a half. That might mean goblet squatting with pink dumbbells, but it HAS TO BE DONE. It is the only way to teach yourself how to lift and make progression without hitting the ceiling.

You need to grasp this simple concept of ramping up to be successful.
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Never be upset about where you have to start, leave your pride at the door, and make progression each week for months and months. You will be surprised where you end up.

My son, 12 years old, started with very light goblet squats. He'd start with a 10 lb dumbbell, when he was eventually able to give me 12 to 15 good reps, we'd increase the weight slightly. Every week he'd try to increase the reps or the weight and today he can easily barbell squat over 150 lbs. The secret is that YOU HAVE TO START ridiculously light and make progression your only goal week to week. How many sets does he do? ONE, and only one working set. Save the sets for when you are stronger and fitter.
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What I see from following your journal (when you actually post your workouts) is that you are always trying to find that weight that allows the perfect amount of reps and sets. That is NOT the way to do it when you first start.
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And one bad week isn't the end. It's part of the road.
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Not progressing at your experience level is usually a symptom of not getting enough calories.
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Well I'm not having a pre workout meal, so maybe thats something to do with it.

Thanks for commenting Josh.
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There are a million different things that might be going on. First, know that this is normal. Most people don't notice it because they don't worry about progression. Anybody who has ever tried to consistently add weight to their lifts will notice very quickly that different days will give different results.
Well thats somewhat of a relife then.
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It definitely could be a form thing. With certain lifts as you continue to add weight you will inevitably have changes in how "clean" your form is. You have to keep learning about form and figuring out what works for you, as well as learning when to stop adding weight the certain lifts because your form is getting to far off.
Yeah, that makes sense.

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There are also nutritional considerations. I am personally very sensitive to how many carbs I've had. When I hit the heaviest squat I've ever hit I had been to a party the day before and had about a million grams of carbs. Meanwhile if I go even a couple days without carbs my lifts drop dramatically and I feel weak and lethargic.
Right I see, I'm not having a pre workout meal currently so maybe thats something to do with it.


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Even hormones play a role. Sometimes you might just be feeling down, not as confident as usual just because your hormones are a little off that day, and that's enough to effect how much weight goes on the bar as well.
Yeah, my mood certainly drops when I don't do very well with a lift.

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