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Old 06-03-2013, 11:04 AM   #1
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Was watching a boxing match the other day. It was David Haye vs some other Russian man.

I noticed he had a great physique, and so did the other guy.


Boxers, and other athletes seem to be an exception to the muscle and strength building rule.
If you look at a boxers training plan and diet, its noting like a powerlifters, or a bodybuilders, yet they have allot of strength and particularly in a boxers case, quite a bit of muscle mass. (I'd be more than happy to have David Haye's body!)

Does anybody know how that works? Everyone else is bulking and cutting, lifting heavy weights, yet he and other athletes look great just by training from their sport.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:12 AM   #2
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Was watching a boxing match the other day. It was David Haye vs some other Russian man.

I noticed he had a great physique, and so did the other guy.


Boxers, and other athletes seem to be an exception to the muscle and strength building rule.
If you look at a boxers training plan and diet, its noting like a powerlifters, or a bodybuilders, yet they have allot of strength and particularly in a boxers case, quite a bit of muscle mass. (I'd be more than happy to have David Haye's body!)

Does anybody know how that works? Everyone else is bulking and cutting, lifting heavy weights, yet he and other athletes look great just by training from their sport.
What do you mean "How does that work?", you already mentioned that their training and diet plans are nothing like PLers or BBers, so there's the answer, I assume...unless you're looking for a medical/biological breakdown, in which case, never going to happen.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:18 AM   #3
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What do you mean "How does that work?", you already mentioned that their training and diet plans are nothing like PLers or BBers

Well thats what I mean. The whole Idea of bulking up and cutting, doesn't apply to them.
I thought that was the only way to do it (granted there are other variables we've already addressed in my other posts.)
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Well thats what I mean. The whole Idea of bulking up and cutting, doesn't apply to them.
I thought that was the only way to do it (granted there are other variables we've already addressed in my other posts.)
How old are you?

David Haye, and other pro athletes look the way they do because they put the work in and because they eat appropriately for what they do.

Any athlete with any appreciable amount of mass (in this case, hayes is small to me at 6'3 210lb), uses weights and/or lots of calisthenics.

Bottom line: You can not avoid the work or the diet.
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David Haye, and other pro athletes look the way they do because they put the work in and because they eat appropriately for what they do.
Why is he ripped year round then?

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Any athlete with any appreciable amount of mass (in this case, hayes is small to me at 6'3 210lb), uses weights and/or lots of calisthenics.

Bottom line: You can not avoid the work or the diet.

I only asked! What is it with people jumping to conclusions thinking I'm looking for an easy way out?

I asked a question because I was curious. That is all.

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You are 16, he is 32. He was likely 10lbs heavier than you at 16.

Work hard in the gym/park/pool/rink, whatever it is you do, then work hard in the kitchen.

You will get where you want to be.
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Well thats what I mean. The whole Idea of bulking up and cutting, doesn't apply to them.
I thought that was the only way to do it (granted there are other variables we've already addressed in my other posts.)
David Hayes (or any top notch athlete) didnt build their physique overnight. Years of consistent hard work leads to that point. You dont "need" to bulk or cut if you plan on gaining 1/4 pound a month. Gain 3 lbs per year for 6-7 years (roughly the length of their amateur career), and that's a 20 lbs gain by the time they debut as a pro.

In short - you dont need to bulk or cut, and you can gain muscle while gaining only minimal fat. Just be aware it takes a lot of time (read years).
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David Hayes (or any top notch athlete) didnt build their physique overnight. Years of consistent hard work leads to that point. You dont "need" to bulk or cut if you plan on gaining 1/4 pound a month. Gain 3 lbs per year for 6-7 years (roughly the length of their amateur career), and that's a 20 lbs gain by the time they debut as a pro.

In short - you dont need to bulk or cut, and you can gain muscle while gaining only minimal fat. Just be aware it takes a lot of time (read years).


1/4 pound?!

gain 3 pounds of muscle in a year?!


They'd look no different!

I'd rather gain the fat that that, and thats coming from an OCD driven model!


Seriously though, I was under the impression you could gain muscle with minimal fat at around 1 to 2 pounds per month.

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1/4 pound?!

gain 3 pounds of muscle in a year?!


They'd look no different!
Are you serious? I said 3 lbs an year for their amateur career (6-7 years). This works out to a roughly 20 lbs lean mass gain by the time they turn pro. 20 lbs of lean mass makes hell of a difference. Again, please take note of this - NONE of the top level athletes built their body overnight. They have been at it for years, not just 6 months or 1 year.

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I'd rather gain the fat that that, and thats coming from an OCD driven model!
Seriously though, I was under the impression you could gain muscle with minimal fat at around 1 to 2 pounds per month.
Yes, you CAN gain 1-2 lbs a month - especially during the newbie stage. But it doesnt work that way forever. After the first few pounds, muscle gains slow down quite significantly, especially if you are trying to avoid putting on fat.
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Seriously though, I was under the impression you could gain muscle with minimal fat at around 1 to 2 pounds per month.
not unless you are chemically enhanced.

Take 2 years off from looking good. Lift heavy, eat heavy, add 40lbs or so...then cut.
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