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Old 11-29-2009, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default Dr. Squat on Full Body Workouts

This is a quote from Dr. Dquat Fred Hatfield:

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As for "full-body" workouts, I think they're OK for newbies or fitness buffs with limited time on their hands. But for athletes and aficianados, it's stone-age thinking! PERIODIZATION is a concept that seems to be so hard for people to grasp. It is so somple! Build a house! Start with the foundation! Progressively and with care, choose the next successive steps toward finishing the house!
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either you chopped that quote,or he is a dumbass, no where is it written that you cant periodize a full body workout
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either you chopped that quote,or he is a dumbass, no where is it written that you cant periodize a full body workout
Dr.Squat is the man, he is far from a dumbass. He is one of the reasons Evander Holyfield (A former Crusierweight) made a successful transition to the Heavyweight division.
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He didn't chop that quote. It's from Dr. Squat. I've read it before as well. And Dr. Squat is no dumbass. He was the first man to squat 1000 pounds, and is every much bit an intellectual as he is a lifter.

With that said, I'm not backing his opinion.

I sent Dr. Squat an invitation to be interviewed on this topic. We will see if he responds...
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He didn't chop that quote. It's from Dr. Squat. I've read it before as well. And Dr. Squat is no dumbass. He was the first man to squat 1000 pounds, and is every much bit an intellectual as he is a lifter.

With that said, I'm not backing his opinion.

I sent Dr. Squat an invitation to be interviewed on this topic. We will see if he responds...
maybe i should clarify that is a dumbass quote, i know he is very smart, and i've read a few of his articles, but he is very close minded from what i can tell
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maybe i should clarify that is a dumbass quote, i know he is very smart, and i've read a few of his articles, but he is very close minded from what i can tell
I hope you didn't take my response the wrong way. I agree with you...there are many close-minded individuals in every aspect of life.

One thing I've learned as I get older is that the longer someone studies and believes in something, the harder it is for them to give it up. Even in the face of an evolving truth or reality.

This goes for Mike Mentzer, Dr. Squat, Casey Butt, and me and you.

Please understand, I am not debating who is right. That's not my point. My point is that each of us should remain open-minded as we progress on our journey. We should not dig our trenches so deep that we can't get out.

There are many days that I'm tempted...tempted to dig a deep trench, find the science to back it up, and package it for sale. I DO have a favorite way of training. But I try to remain open.

I've lifted on splits for 23 years. This month I've decided to try a full body workout. I could have easily shouted from the mountain tops..."splits work!" But I want to learn.

I hope each of us remains willing to learn. There will ALWAYS be a better way. The human body is too complex.

I know Casey Butt would agree with this. He is not an either or type of guy. I know Mike Mentzer would agree with this, but only within his "lens" of training reality.

As for Dr. Squat..well, I'm sure his opinion is based on something. And I think when a man is the first to squat 1000 pounds, we should listen. We should listen with a willingness to learn.

I'm not trying to lecture anyone. Everyone has a right to their pursuit of truth in their own way. But on the other hand, I've seen people with all kinds of beliefs...religious, political, etc., hate each other because of deep trenches.

Some of the biggest and strongest people on the planet (naturals or "un" natural) don't use full body routines. I think a good question is..."what can we learn from them to improve out full body approach?"
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Something that I've learned is that the pendulum swings to extremes, but can't stay there. Eventually it settles in the middle.

This holds true for most things in life. The fringes offer information, and are useful, but usually only apply to a small minority. Take and learn from all of the info that you can, but use what suits you the best out of all of it.

Without availing yourself of all the info you can, you may miss something that is not helpful to the next person, but may be just what you need.

I'll be interested in what he may say, and I need to go read more of his process. Right now though I've got enough to digest with my current plans.
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I am hoping for an interview, but wouldn't bet my luck. He is primarily a strength trainer, but has written a book on bodybuilding. His bodybuilding approach is very much an HLM.

I am very curious as to why he feels full bodies are inferior. My gut is that he believes this way because he can't envision someone doing squats, bench and deads all on the same day.

And to add to GLwanabe's statement...when we as individuals cling to only one strand, we tend to become fringe. Mike Mentzer is the best example of this.
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that is a very old comment but I dont think full body would be best if your goal was to squat a 1,000 and your were juicing his squat was more impressive becuase it was done with out modern epuipment
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that is a very old comment but I dont think full body would be best if your goal was to squat a 1,000 and your were juicing his squat was more impressive becuase it was done with out modern epuipment
My point was that guys like Reg Park, Paul Anderson and Doug Hepburn all trained on virtually full body routines. They were drug free, and had mammoth numbers. Anderson and Hepburn might have hit 1,000 without a squat suit if they juiced.
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