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Old 07-18-2010, 10:42 PM   #21
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thanks francisco. your looking massive in those offseason pics!!!!
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:02 PM   #23
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:26 PM   #24
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You have massive quads

What kind of split do you do and how much cardio if you don't mind me asking?
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You have massive quads

What kind of split do you do and how much cardio if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks bro!....My Current split & Cardio ( i am cutting right now)

1. Upperbody + 40 min cardio
2. Lowebody + 40 min cardio
3. High intensity Cardio Intervals
4. Back/Chest + 30 min of cardio
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for someone like myself just getting started in BBing its nice to see what a natural can truely accomplish and to tell your self it can be done with out synthetic help.

you look phenomenal man keep hard at it!!!!
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Francisco how long have you been training? And how hard is it to gain muscle after the first 5 years of hard lifting? This forum talks a lot about natural bodybuilding and just wondering what your experiences were.
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you look phenomenal man keep hard at it!!!!
Thanks bro! This is a beautiful sport and natural is the way to go If you need something dont hesitate to ask me. There are a lot of misinformation out there that drives me crazy...From BroScience to what i cosider just plain stupid!...It cost me a few years and a lot of frustration to figure out that a lot information was wrong! What natural can do and what they cant do? the overtraining Cr@p! etc....etc etc....
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Francisco how long have you been training? And how hard is it to gain muscle after the first 5 years of hard lifting? This forum talks a lot about natural bodybuilding and just wondering what your experiences were.
I have been training now for 13 years however for the first 3-4 years i was practicing martial arts and bodybuilding was just part of my training. I was not really trying to get bigger just to get better at martial arts. I can say that i started focusing in getting bigger once i retired from MA. As you know gains come easy at first and then gets harder and harder to gain Raw muscle mass.

For instance after of 5-6 years (after i retired from MA) i believe that i had achieved most of my Raw Muscle mass. I probably had achieved around 90% of Natural potential...and after that gains of 1-2 lbs (muscle/year) were the norm i believe. However despite the fact that my bodyweight has not change much in the past 4 years my Overall shape has changed tremendously, my simetry has improved, my muscle density, muscularity etc....and if i compare a pic from a 5 years ago to pics from today i look a lot bigger and muscular. In Natural Bodybuilding you get better with age....the longer you train you get better muscle maturity. Just look at Dave goodin...he is 50 and he looks incredible. Clarence Mcgill ( wnbf) 2009 World
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It's funny you say that. I've been to several natural contests and the best physiques to me are always in the 40+ class. They might not always be the most cut but they look the best.

Another question for you. I've seen some reluctance (even anger) on forums from a few experienced natural bodybuilders who believe they aren't limited, and that they can keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

Any idea why this is such a touchy subject?
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