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Old 01-29-2013, 02:28 PM   #11
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Is there NO benefit to not coming to full lockout for certain movements? I am fully aware that many on this board have forgotten more about lifting than I know, but some things just feel more efficient by leaving tension on. Chins/pullups, I come to a complete stop at top and bottom, though I never fully straighten the elbows. Same with dips. Shoulder press, I'm sure I need to just improve my shoulders, but I find I have fewer post workout issues, and the workout feels more complete when my set is one fluid continuous motion without hitting elbow lockout. I guess the common factor here is the elbow. Can anyone address the possibility that the elbow involved motions, and possibly knee due to it's similar motion, could benefit from not reaching a full lockout?
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Lockout transfers support from primarily muscles to primarily skeleton.

There is more muscle tension shy of lock out, but there is more force required to pull a lever to full lockout.

Use both techniques if you're worried.
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Worried, not really, under-educated, definitely. I'm always open to listen when logic and reason are presented.
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Seems to me bodybuiders probably are only concerned with making muscles bigger and so don't lock out as they want that tension to provide more muscle growth.

But, there are other things that are required if your goal is lifting maximum weight. Your bones, tendons and connective tissue all have to grow or thicken too.

If you don't put stress or put much lesser stress on those other elements, you probably won't get as strong as if you did.

As Jim said, that's probably why BB'ers do themselves a mischief from time to time when they do lock out. The other stuff isn't keeping pace with their muscles.

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