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BendtheBar 01-09-2013 09:04 AM

Muscle Building and Training To Failure
 

BendtheBar 01-09-2013 09:19 AM

This is something I've talked about before for 70% ish, or bodybuilding work. As the reps mount, the body responds to existing fatigue by calling into play more muscle fibers.

For 85% work max muscle fibers are recruited.

TitanWIP 01-09-2013 11:30 AM

Well that was a kick to the groin.

Trevor Ross 01-09-2013 07:17 PM

Define failure.......

Trevor Lane 01-09-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Ross (Post 310343)
Define failure.......

Generally speaking, failure means that you physically cannot do one more rep of a given exercise correctly.

Trevor Ross 01-09-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Lane (Post 310350)
Generally speaking, failure means that you physically cannot do one more rep of a given exercise correctly.

There are different degrees of failure though, are we talking absolute failure like the way Yates used to train. Or are we talking rest-pause like DC?

Squatter 01-09-2013 10:29 PM

I agree - I like to lift heavy but not to failure. Sheesh - the Crew would kick my ass if I did.haha

BendtheBar 01-09-2013 10:29 PM

The video references the obsession with training to failure to maximize muscle fiber recruitment. This has been shown to be nonsense. Maximum muscle fiber recruitment appears to take place around rep 5 for sets under 85%ish reps.

BendtheBar 01-09-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Squatter (Post 310391)
I agree - I like to lift heavy but not to failure. Sheesh - the Crew would kick my ass if I did.haha

Right. Lift for progress, not for failure.

Failure on some lifts is easier than for others. So there is some gray area. But in general chasing failure is a complete waste of time, and takes on added risk.

Trevor Ross 01-09-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 310393)
Right. Lift for progress, not for failure.

Oh absolutely, that's the main reason I've trained in a rest-pause style for 80% of my lifting career. I do only one work set, and it seems to work so far. I love the 10-8-6 rep scheme and trying to grind out 4-5 more reps on the last set if I can get over 10 reps the weight goes up. Except for Deadlifts, that's just asking for it.


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