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Old 11-19-2012, 12:04 PM   #11
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All excuses, no-ones fails to build size and strength because of those factors.

People fail from a lack of desire.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:08 PM   #13
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:27 PM   #14
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The biggest reason I see is obstacles or walls of any sort stopping someone. You either smash the wall or let it stop you. Doesn't matter if it's diet, training, time.... EVERYONE has many things that come up in their path to success. You either overcome or you fail!!!
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The biggest reason for failure I see, even more than is excuses, is not even trying.
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The biggest reason I see people failing is not being consistant and jumping from one routine to the next in only a couple of weeks. And not sticking to something
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Consistency is a huge issue. That's obvious answer A. Once in the gym and training consistently the next huge stumbling block is wet noodle training. Limp. No fire. Putting in work. Progression? Eh, sometimes.
This is so. Consistent effort over time gets results. The "consistent" part comes first, because if you don't do the thing it doesn't matter how great or crap it is.

But the "effort" part matters. That doesn't mean smashing yourself, but it does mean... well, progressive resistance training means we should... um... progress the resistance. Do more weight, or more reps, or more sets.

Few people show up consistently. Fewer still progress the resistance. In fact, some of the most inconsistent people are most keen on progressing the resistance. And an even smaller number put in the time required.

Some examples of people I've worked with.

GC, 22yo, 70kg female, healthy. Did 1 PT session a week for 18 months. Max deadlift 60kg.
RS, 64yo 56kg female, herniated discs in her back. Does 1 PT session a week for 6 months. Max deadlift 75kg.

Why the difference? Why could an older smaller woman with a bad back do more in 6 months than a younger larger woman with a healthy back could do in 18 months? Consistency. RS came reliably for our PT sessions, and repeated the workouts on her own 2-3 times each week. GC dropped the PT sessions whenever anything else came up and did not much on her own, never followed any routine given.

PV, 35yo 80kg male, healthy. Refused PT "I'd like to try to do it myself for a while." I started him off with 40kg squats. "I know it's easy, add 2.5kg a week." Two workouts later he was squatting 80kg. Next week he never squatted again. The effort was too great, he couldn't do it over time. He need more than one week to go from a 40 to 80kg squat.

Consistent effort over time gets results. Both GC's and PV's behaviours are very common in gym-goers with no coach (GC had me as a coach, but you can't get through to everyone). They come irregularly and eventually drift off, or come with an initial burst of enthusiasm, push themselves stupidly hard, then never come again.

The consistent part is important.
The effort part is important.
The time part is important, too.
Consistent effort over time gets results. This is simple, not easy.
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People fails because they like playing Xbox or watching a movie or getting drunk with their friends more than to be big, strong and awesome.

And because they are lazy and content.

Very sad story really...
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Swede I like that.

I see people failing not just in putting on muscle (I say muscle because anyone can eat and put on size) but in dieting down because of complacency.

People like feeling comfortable and don't like to change of go outside the box.

They will find a reason or excuse to justify the reason they failed /are failing.

What you hear from people that fail all the time:
"My genetics"
"I decided to"
"I had"
"I changed my goals"
"My body"
"They said"
"I read"
"I can't"
"I didn't"
"Next year"
"My metab"
"My age"
"It was more important to me to"
"It's not my goal in life to be"
"I'll do it tomorrow"

What you hear from winners:
"My training log shows"
"My nutrition log shows"
"I did"
"I will do"

It is easier to be a looser/failure than a winner as you see you have a lot more options as a loser to justify your outcome and keep from looking like a looser.

Maybe if more people that fail would be called out as a looser there wouldn't be so many.

Of course some is our fault also, we keep buttering up people that quit there goals 1/2 threw we are no better. I'm not saying bash them just call them out to make them accountable for there actions also help them keep the drive by questioning them when your goal starts to slide.

If the person strikes back and don't take a hard look at them-self, they never wanted your help of friendship. For them don't waste your time and energy that could be going to a person that will appreciate it and follow threw and meet there goal.
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