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Old 06-13-2013, 02:04 PM   #11
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:10 PM   #12
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I totally get what you are saying..but even WANT is not enough. Everyone wants for things, but that doesn't mean they get it...you have to be motivated...and eventually, as i like to see it, become addicted to change.
I agree with this^^^^^^

There are probably dozens of reasons people decide to get in better shape...Im just saying NEED is not a requirement
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:21 PM   #13
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Perhaps this would be clearer if we distinguish between WISH and WANT.

A lot of people WISH they could be in great shape, or are told by others that they need to be in better shape.

It is not until the WISH (external, distant) becomes internalized into a WANT, and acted upon by determination and will, to become a priority, that change happens.

Three important factors in success:
1) Confidence (that you can do it)
2) Knowledge (how to do it)
3) Priority (do it consistently, intensely, don't let it get bumped by life)

Hat tip for first two factors to Jim Johnson's "Sixty Second Motivator" book.

Physical transformation is a mind game, first and foremost, including the decision to push for "one more rep".
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Perhaps this would be clearer if we distinguish between WISH and WANT.

A lot of people WISH they could be in great shape, or are told by others that they need to be in better shape.

It is not until the WISH (external, distant) becomes internalized into a WANT, and acted upon by determination and will, to become a priority, that change happens.

Three important factors in success:
1) Confidence (that you can do it)
2) Knowledge (how to do it)
3) Priority (do it consistently, intensely, don't let it get bumped by life)

Hat tip for first two factors to Jim Johnson's "Sixty Second Motivator" book.

Physical transformation is a mind game, first and foremost, including the decision to push for "one more rep".
^^THIS^^! Though I would probably order them (1) knowledge (2) priority (3) confidence...simply because your confidence will grow as you become consistent in the mechanics of reaching your goals.

Parts of this thread remind me of one of my all time fav motivational quotes:
First you fuel the desire, then the desire will fuel you.
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If you WANT it bad enough, you do it for a day. Then you do it again and again. Um, and again
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A person must have the will.
Agreed. I would personally only elaborate a bit, and note that we all have the will, but few of us truly realise that we do *and* opt to use it for the betterment of ourselves and "our world".

But again, I totally agree (that will is key).

In any given direction, wishes and wants and desires and thoughts and all manner of other things can come and go, wax and wane, but will is (or at least can be) eternal.
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or greater than your lack of motivation. I think a lot of people have a great desire to change...they just don't have motivation enough to last through the beginning stages of change.
Yes that is correct. I had the desire to change but never had enough willpower or the motivation to do it til the last time I tried.
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