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BendtheBar 10-05-2011 11:35 AM

People with high cholesterol live longer
 
Since we are talking about high cholesterol today, I thought I would post this for discussion:

The Benefits of High Cholesterol - Weston A Price Foundation

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People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994 that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.
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Now consider that more than 90 % of all cardiovascular disease is seen in people above age 60 also and that almost all studies have found that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women.2 This means that high cholesterol is only a risk factor for less than 5 % of those who die from a heart attack.
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Many studies have found that low cholesterol is in certain respects worse than high cholesterol. For instance, in 19 large studies of more than 68,000 deaths, reviewed by Professor David R. Jacobs and his co-workers from the Division of Epidemiology at the University of Minnesota, low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.3

5kgLifter 10-05-2011 11:43 AM

I had my cholesterol levels checkd around 4-5 years ago, can't recall why, but I was told it was high and given a dietary sheet to make changes; though, I was also told I was NOT in the high risk group...so where was the point of the cholesterol check? Which is an interesting question.

You have high cholesterol...but, don't concern yourself, apart from altering diet and such, because, well, your high cholesterol taken into account with other factors, such as non-smoking, non-overweight etc...don't count anyway??

A very confusing message.

Anyway, the elderly neighbour (now deceased) informed me that his was 1/2 of mine and he'd still had a heart attack; he didn't want to worry me...yup, not what I wanted to hear, at the time. I went off and did research on poly/mono/sat fats and such and came to the conclusion that poly's were a big issue from all the studies I read during the following weeks, which is in direct contradiction to the diet sheets being handed out.

BendtheBar 10-05-2011 11:50 AM

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You have high cholesterol...but, don't concern yourself, apart from altering diet and such, because, well, your high cholesterol taken into account with other factors, such as non-smoking, non-overweight etc...don't count anyway??
I always boil health down to the basics:

--Do you rely on processed foods? Clean this up.
--Do you smoke? Stop.
--Do you drink more than socially? Stop.
--Is your diet unbalanced? Balance it.
--Are you overweight? Eat less.
--Do you get winded walking to the mail box? Indication that your body is not functioning as designed. Do something about it.
--Are you avoiding fat? Stop. Fat does not make you fat.

5kgLifter 10-05-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 177752)
I always boil health down to the basics:

--Do you rely on processed foods? Clean this up.
--Do you smoke? Stop.
--Do you drink more than socially? Stop.
--Is your diet unbalanced? Balance it.
--Are you overweight? Eat less.
--Do you get winded walking to the mail box? Indication that your body is not functioning as designed. Do something about it.
--Are you avoiding fat? Stop. Fat does not make you fat.

Yep!

The weird thing is nobody ever asked what I ate, they just jumped on the assumption bandwagon that because cholesterol was up then the diet had to be the culprit.

Trevor Lane 10-05-2011 12:07 PM

I had a physical back in June, with the awesomest doctor I've ever met BTW, and I had normal LDL, slightly low HDL, and normal everything else from BP to urine protein. At that time my diet was nearly 100% carnivorous and completely grain free (I've made a point to add some veggies since then) and I was doing 0 cardio. He told me that the government mandates the correlation between dietary and blood cholesterol even though evidence suggests none and that in his experience dietary changes do very little if anything to change blood cholesterol.

Shadowschmadow 10-05-2011 12:18 PM

I always get annoyed that people don't make the notion that there is more than 1 kind of cholesterol.

Kuytrider 10-05-2011 12:23 PM

I know a guy who is an alcoholic and has had this problem for years. He never exercises, eats a less than healthy diet and is a good 20-30 pounds overweight. He had his cholesterol checked and his HDL and LDL were normal.

Shadowschmadow 10-05-2011 12:25 PM

Yeah, some people just suck Kuyt. Some people just suck...

5kgLifter 10-05-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 177763)
Yeah, some people just suck Kuyt. Some people just suck...

Haha, yeah, hubby's cholesterol and BP is always pretty much spot on and mine seldom is :confused: ...but he deserves a break, with all the other ailments.


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