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Old 07-05-2011, 09:17 AM   #1
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Never ceases to amaze me how many people believe that a workout is a magic weight loss bullet. There is this myth for many that if they only find the right workout, the weight will drip off.

I wish that were the case.

After nearly 30 years of exercise, there is one thing I know - the more I exercise, the hungrier I get. Weight loss is about self-control, not workouts.
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:01 AM   #2
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Not just self-control, but planning ahead. When I'm in weight loss mode, every meal is planned out, sometimes the day before. Stick to the plan, no encuses, no changes, lose the weight. It has very little to do with working out. Hell, I'm training harder than ever these days for the Army, and I've gained a couple lbs.
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Calories in calories out. Even busting my balls I don't think I burn enough calories to make much of a difference.
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Calories in calories out.
Pre-Paleo I lived by the kcal in/ kcal out theory.
Since going Paleo and having been able to walk around at < 10%BF while eating well in excess of my mainatainance kcals I now believe food choices are more important.
I also believe that there are specific foods that even in a kcal defecit will stall fat loss. Dairy products seem to be superior at this. Nature designed milk for massive tissue increase at an accelerated rate.

Although I firmly stand by "No one can out train a poor diet" I think that there are tricks in training that can create a greater metabolic effect towards fat loss, ie. Tabata Protocols, strength & power circuits, etc....
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Pre-Paleo I lived by the kcal in/ kcal out theory.
Since going Paleo and having been able to walk around at < 10%BF while eating well in excess of my mainatainance kcals I now believe food choices are more important.
I also believe that there are specific foods that even in a kcal defecit will stall fat loss. Dairy products seem to be superior at this. Nature designed milk for massive tissue increase at an accelerated rate.

Although I firmly stand by "No one can out train a poor diet" I think that there are tricks in training that can create a greater metabolic effect towards fat loss, ie. Tabata Protocols, strength & power circuits, etc....
Agreed, but most overestimate the importance of the other stuff to try and trick their body into losing fat without having to actually control their intake. Advanced trainers understand and can use synergy in their diet and training protocalls, but the average person needs to start at cals and work from there, using exercise to support a quality diet.
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Pre-Paleo I lived by the kcal in/ kcal out theory.
Since going Paleo and having been able to walk around at < 10%BF while eating well in excess of my mainatainance kcals I now believe food choices are more important.
I also believe that there are specific foods that even in a kcal defecit will stall fat loss. Dairy products seem to be superior at this. Nature designed milk for massive tissue increase at an accelerated rate.

Although I firmly stand by "No one can out train a poor diet" I think that there are tricks in training that can create a greater metabolic effect towards fat loss, ie. Tabata Protocols, strength & power circuits, etc....
This bit is interesting to me, because I drink a lot of milk and am keen to lose weight. Do you have any studies you can point me to on this subject?
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Sorry Abs, no studies, just anecdotal from helping other folks drop bodyfat.
I'm completely dairy intolerant, so it's all from helping other folks.
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Sorry Abs, no studies, just anecdotal from helping other folks drop bodyfat.
I'm completely dairy intolerant, so it's all from helping other folks.
In that case, I'd like to bend your ear about dairy substitutes you've tried.
I've got a tragic history with whey supps, and drink special milk free of a certain type of casein... and lactose is something of a problem for me too.
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Self control is the only way to burn fat. In my opinion cardio workout is best solution for fat. Try to do 30 minute running in the morning and do some walk. These exercises will burn your calories. Water is also beneficial for this purpose.
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The exercise is important for strength and health, but it's the diet that causes fat loss. Certainly, extra exercise will help to burn calories, but not nearly enough to make up for bad eating habits.
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