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Old 03-30-2010, 12:43 AM   #11
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Possibly when you're young and eating a daily surplus. But I wouldn't push my luck. I lose muscle on this approach, but still gain strength.
Actually yes you can gain weight. I've been doing morning workout for the past 10 weeks, basically empty stomach each day. Only thing I'll take before workout is 1-2 LG sciences E911 tablets to give me a bit of a boost. Now I have been taking some 'supplements' to help me during this 10 weeks. And right after working out, will usually take in close to 80g protein. with taking 200-300g per day.
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Actually yes you can gain weight. I've been doing morning workout for the past 10 weeks, basically empty stomach each day. Only thing I'll take before workout is 1-2 LG sciences E911 tablets to give me a bit of a boost. Now I have been taking some 'supplements' to help me during this 10 weeks. And right after working out, will usually take in close to 80g protein. with taking 200-300g per day.
Like I said, as long as you're on a calorie surplus you can gain weight.

But we had been talking about the Warrior Diet approach DB, and that makes it darned near impossible to eat a surplus or gain any muscle. My response was to Coop's asking about my approach.

Training on an empty stomach implies that you could have eaten earlier in the day. The Warrior Diet is a form of intermittent fasting. Just wanted to bring this point up for anyone reading that's not familiar with the WD.
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Old 03-30-2010, 09:20 AM   #14
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Like I said, as long as you're on a calorie surplus you can gain weight.

But we had been talking about the Warrior Diet approach DB, and that makes it darned near impossible to eat a surplus or gain any muscle. My response was to Coop's asking about my approach.

Training on an empty stomach implies that you could have eaten earlier in the day. The Warrior Diet is a form of intermittent fasting. Just wanted to bring this point up for anyone reading that's not familiar with the WD.
Maybe I need to pay more attention - lol. Never heard of this Warrior Diet before, gonna go look this up. Thanks for the info bro.
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Maybe I need to pay more attention - lol. Never heard of this Warrior Diet before, gonna go look this up. Thanks for the info bro.
No problem. Hope I didn't sound like a school teacher. The WD is pretty much eating little to nothing all day, and eating all your calories at one meal. There's more to it then that, but that's a good recap.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:16 AM   #16
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I had my last dinner the night before at 8pm, went home with my girl and had some late night cardio and then got up around 10 and went to the gym after having coffee. Like I said, when I do this I am strong, even when I go to MMA, I am fast like LIGHTING!
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No problem. Hope I didn't sound like a school teacher. The WD is pretty much eating little to nothing all day, and eating all your calories at one meal. There's more to it then that, but that's a good recap.
That's what I thought...eating only enough to keep you from going insane all day, good foods only..then essentially stuffing it down at dinner, but using an order of foods..like veggies before meats or something like that...
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Depends on the person, really.

I'm absolutely useless when it comes to morning workouts of any kind.
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I had a trainer who always recommended that I workout 3 hours fasted. He never wanted me to have a shake or something before the workout. His reasoning was this - you can have a workout based on calories, or a workout based on hormones.

In a caloric workout, you're using whatever is in your glycogen stores. That's probably where those pre-workout shakes come into play. Your body will use that as energy to get you through the workout

In a hormonal workout, you're pretty much using adrenaline to get you through. You're forcing your body to find the energy. It's tougher to get a workout started that way, but a hormonal workout will be more intense.

He would use the caveman example to justify this. If a hunter hasn't eaten for a couple of days, that doesn't mean that he says he can't hunt because there's nothing in his system. If anything, he will work harder to make the kill. Survival response. I've never heard of the Warrior Diet before, but it seems to follow the same concept (you would probably have the most food after you had worked out/made the kill).

There might be some truth in this. All I know is that ever since I tried working out on an empty stomach, I've never gone back to having pre-workout shakes. I definitely don't feel weak while I'm working out.

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Good post.

I have to admit, I've been eating very light during the day for over a year and a half now and I never have strength issues. I also feel more aware and awake during the day.

The Warrior Diet is right along these lines...you feel awake like a hunter until you get your kill.
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