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Old 02-28-2014, 09:19 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=VA;460368]Thanks for the tips Btb and Biggray. much appreciated!

I will post a vid up when I'm up to lifting again (week or so?), but my form has already been checked by two trainers who specialise in powerlifting lifts, and they said my sumo form is good.

Also, I've strained my back on a light pendalay row, squatting with just the bar, and - jesus - even carrying the shopping. So something is going on there that's not just my screwey form.

I guess what i'm really interested in is different people's experiences with chiropracters/physios/myotherapy etc... What has been useful and what would people recommend.

There's a myotherapy clinic where I work that I thought I'd try out and I'm thinking chiro next...

I've been to a physio a couple of times, and he's great at massage/releasing the muscles, but that's about it. Doesn't seem to be getting to the cause of it, whatever that is..[/QU}
Hey VA, I go to a chiropractor once a month, and I get a massage once a month, which works good for me,when I warm up it 7 min on treadmill or bike the I do some trunk rotation stretching and then pirfirmoris stretching and foam rolling and you get a good one that has foam roller a PCP pipe at Wal-Mart ,Then I get to lifting , which before each lift I blow all the air out tighten my abs and breathe through my nose when I'm dong my sets and that what been helping me., let me know what you think
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:27 PM   #12
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Well, I'm not 100% sure what it is. I basically pull a muscle on the left side of the spine right at the base. So that is a kind of injury - muscles go into spasm or seize up and if I move my lumbar region it hurts for several days.

My physio said that I probably pulled a very small muscle near the spine that didn't recover and so then when I make a movement that it doesn't like (i.e. squatting etc.) the other muscles around it go into spasm to protect it.

After I went back a second or third time, he told me that I had a 'weakness' there, and that since it's the weak link whenever something goes it will be there - so i will have to strengthen that area and the core.

Thinking of going to a chiro, or maybe even giving up squatting/deads for 6 months or so, just to give myself time to heal that area properly.
Sounds like sciatica, which I suggest you may want to go see chiropractor.I see my once a month, and when I go to the gym I do 7 mi of cardio, then trunk rotations, piriformis stretching and then I do foam rolling, and may I suggest one with the PCP pipe with foam covering you can get it a Wal-Mart for $28.00, let know if this helpful
I also get massage once a month as well.

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Old 02-28-2014, 09:33 PM   #13
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Look into having your iliopsoas palpated.

If it tightens up it can cause dysfunction and pain in the lumbar region.
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Sounds like me.

I have a herniated l5/s1. Not sure if related to my issues though.

Where exactly is your issue occurring? For me, it happens on one side and is low in the coxxcyx area.

It tends to flare up when my low back gets fatigued. Volume deadlift work actually brings about the symptoms more than pulling singles. I am at the point where I can tell its about to happen and one more rep will put it over the top. In that case i take a week off low body work.
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I'm starting to incorporate some of jdmalm's suggestions already, so glad to know I'm on the right track. I'll try to work in a couple more of those suggestions back into my daily glute/core workout once this strain passes. And yeah, I'm going to have to be more careful with coming back from this. Thanks for the tips!

I might also try a chiro too, biggray, as it's worth a try. The physio doesn't seem to be really helping that much - other than with fixing the flare-ups when they happen.

Bill, it's bang on the base of the spine - right where it connects to the pelvis on the left side. So the last or second last verterbrae - what ever that's called.

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I'm starting to incorporate some of jdmalm's suggestions already, so glad to know I'm on the right track. I'll try to work in a couple more of those suggestions back into my daily glute/core workout once this strain passes. And yeah, I'm going to have to be more careful with coming back from this. Thanks for the tips!

I might also try a chiro too, biggray, as it's worth a try. The physio doesn't seem to be really helping that much - other than with fixing the flare-ups when they happen.

Bill, it's bang on the base of the spine - right where it connects to the pelvis on the left side. So the last or second last verterbrae - what ever that's called.

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If it's not the internal core stabilizer muscles, then it's often the quadratus lumborum (QL). It's mainly a side bending/stabilizing muscle.

You could also have some sacral joint sprain.

One thing I've found is the "spot" of the pain is often the symptom, while the "source" of the pain is nearby. Hunt around sometimes the issue isn't obvious.

For example, When I herniated L5-S1, I had radiating pain down the corresponding dermatomes of my leg, but the injury was at my spine. Once I had surgery, leg pain immediately dissipated.
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Thanks for all your suggestions.

Am over the strain and am working out again. One problem was but winking which put a strain on my lower back so am squatting to a box until my hamstrings are better, and I've got a core/glute workout that I'm doing every day.

Am staying off the deads for a couple more weeks and then will get back to it.
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Thanks for all your suggestions.

Am over the strain and am working out again. One problem was but winking which put a strain on my lower back so am squatting to a box until my hamstrings are better, and I've got a core/glute workout that I'm doing every day.

Am staying off the deads for a couple more weeks and then will get back to it.
Hey VA. This subject looks like its been hashed out but you just commented so I thought I would put my two cents in. With a reoccurring sp/st most likely you have a little bit of ligament damage/instability at L4-L5-S1. In my experience this is usually due to lack of motion in the upper lumbar/lower thoracic area. This is were a good chiro can help you. The key to lasting change and this situation healing up is doing some stability exercises (proprioceptive training) for the entire spine, pelvis, and hip complex. Core training is after you stabilize the joint. The small muscle that attach between vertebral segments need to be firing. Start with a stability ball. Balance and coordination is your answer after the spinal mechanics have been corrected. That's my two cents! I hope something will benefit.
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Chiroman,

Thanks for the response. I think that what i'm doing, with the glute and core strengthening is going pretty well. It just feels more tight/solid even when I'm doing squats. I think I'll try a chiro when/if I have another issue. I'm always open to suggestions, but I'm not sure exactly what kind of stability exercises you mean that would work that area.
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Good I hope it fixes you up. When I'm talking about coordination and balance im talking about using a physio ball or a dyno disc. The whole point is to put your body under stress while balancing. Sounds like you have it figured out. Good luck.


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