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bonkers 09-25-2012 06:56 PM

Vacines
 
Do you feel that children should be vaccinated? I just saw a post on fb that said the mother got her son vaccinated and it caused a big outroar by a friend that said they should not be vaccinated bc of cancer and such. What do you think about all of this?

bruteforce 09-25-2012 07:07 PM

A bunch of ignorant savages. Unfriend the vaccine haters in real life.

JacktheThriller 09-25-2012 07:57 PM

Many near extinct virus and disease are coming back due this vaccine=poison nonsense. I think it was polio? That was on its way to extinction in Africa and then some nut started spreading rumors that polio was the government testing other diseases on people. Anyway it leads to "alternative treatment" like The virgin cleansing myth (also referred to as the virgin cure myth, virgin rape myth, or simply virgin myth) is the mistaken belief that if a man infected with HIV, AIDS, or other sexually transmitted diseases has sex with a virgin girl, he will be cured of his disease.

DieselWeasel 09-25-2012 11:20 PM

Vaccine fillers and ingredients include:

• acetone (solvent used in fingernail polish remover)
• aluminum hydroxide
• aluminum phosphate (toxic)
• ammonium sulfate
• amphotericin B
• animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
• dog kidney, monkey kidney
• chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
• calf (bovine) serum
• betapropiolactone
• fetal bovine serum
• formaldehyde
• formalin
• gelatin
• glycerol
• human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
• hydrolized gelatin
• monosodium glutamate (MSG)
• neomycin (antibiotic)
• neomycin sulfate
• phenol red indicator
• phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
• potassium diphosphate
• potassium monophosphate
• polymyxin B
• polysorbate 20
• polysorbate 80
• porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
• residual MRC5 proteins
• sorbitol
• sucrose
• streptomycin (antibiotic)
• thimerosal (toxic mercury)
• tri(n)butylphosphate (neurotoxin)
• VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
• washed sheep red blood cells


You people can get all the vaccines you want. Have fun with that. I'm done with putting mercury (and other assorted goodies) in my body. Same goes for any children that I might have in the future.

leefarley 09-26-2012 06:38 AM

my daughter has had all her vaccines and she is healthy and well

Hazzard 09-26-2012 07:50 AM

I got all my vaccines as a kid (mmr, diptheria, polio, tetanus, etc.) and any child or children I may have I the future will have them all as well. Strangely enough I trust medicine over media scare tactics.

_J_ 09-26-2012 09:45 AM

I don't really understand the "don't vaccinate" movement.

It's pretty simple imo. Just look at the disease and infant mortality/birth-defect rates prior to vaccines and then look at them after vaccines.

--Before vaccines, polio paralyzed tens of thousands of people every year, and after vaccines, polio has been practically eradicated.

--In the 1960's, rubella caused 15,000 kids to be deaf, blind, or mentally impaired, but after vaccines, there have only been a few dozen cases of rubella over the last 10 years.

--In the late 1950's and early 1960's, 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported every year, but after vaccines, there are around 50 cases per year and almost no deaths.

--1940s, there was an average of 175,000 cases of pertussis (whooping cough) per year, resulting in the deaths of 8,000 children annually. Now, there are about 10,000 cases per year. B/c of this tin-foil hat-wearing "no vaccines" movement, whooping cough is making a comeback and there are small outbreaks among school children every year in the US and Canada (the majority of those kids are unvaccinated).

This list could go on forever. Even if vaccines raised someone's risk of something else, their benefits FAR outweigh their dangers.

DieselWeasel 09-26-2012 11:14 AM

Autism has exploded in the past couple of decades, along with the # of vaccines given to children at a very early age. Just a coincidence, I suppose.

_J_ 09-26-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselWeasel (Post 279954)
Autism has exploded in the past couple of decades, along with the # of vaccines given to children at a very early age. Just a coincidence, I suppose.

So has childhood obesity and childhood diabetes. Just a coincidence, I suppose. Damn vaccines have to be causing those too b/c the increase in those conditions certainly couldn't be caused by any one of the innumerable other variables in peoples' lives, right?

bruteforce 09-26-2012 11:34 AM

I realize no one has asked me, but I've always wondered if there is a connection between autism and the massive movement to be rid of fat everywhere in our diets. The brain needs fat to develop properly. Haven't seen studies on this, but there's as much correlation here as there is for the vaccine theory.


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