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Old 03-15-2012, 07:17 AM   #21
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I'm on your side in general. Don't pigeon hole me.
Excuse my ignorance. What is pigeon holeing and how did I do it to you?

BTW, Trust me I'm not a narrow minded guy if you met me in real life. Nor do I look for Bigots.

Again if I offended you with this thread I apologize.
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I'm fan of taking control of your own label. I consider myself a bodybuilder. Do I plan to compete? Not really. Do I think that by not dieting down to 6% that I am somehow less driven or focused? Somehow less of a bodybuilder? No.

I work hard to achieve an off-season look. I want people to look at me and think "He's big. I wonder if he ever competes."

So, my advice is take control of your own label and don't let others define you.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:05 AM   #23
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I think all of us non-competetive types should start reffering to ourselves as "Bar Benders."
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Lets clear one thing up.

People need to read post 1 again on what the rant is.

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I have been getting blasted with all these kids and people that go to the gym 2 or 3 days a week and do cross training and lift 50% of what they are capable of. Eat like crap and label them selves a bodybuilder.
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Now days Richard Simonds would be classified as a bodybuilder.
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Bodybuilder - Someone who competes in physique competitions
Powerlifter - Somebody that competes the Sqaut, Bench, and Deadlift
Weightlifter - Somebody that competes the Olympic lifts
Physical Culturalist - Somebody who practices the above without competing
Gym Bunny - Somebody that goes to the gym with no clear purpose
Do they even use that term any more?

Thankfully, I only lift for fun, even if I do take that fun seriously, but I don't have the hassle of labels. But, it's good that it's brought up once in a while because too many claim they want to "Bodybuild" when what they really want is just to get in to shape...I guess it's the difference between someone who likes to jog every morning and a person that is running the marathon at the Olympics or some other event...they have the same base but that's where the similarities end.
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Excuse my ignorance. What is pigeon holeing and how did I do it to you?

BTW, Trust me I'm not a narrow minded guy if you met me in real life. Nor do I look for Bigots.

Again if I offended you with this thread I apologize.
Nope, I apologize to you. I had the feeling you were talking down to me, and I reacted a bit badly and wrote something judgemental which was out of line. I'm very sorry about that.

I think I mis-understood your point. I thought you were drawing a line in the sand, implying anyone thinkng differently was wrong, or something like that, and I got defensive.

Thanks for not being offended. I hope we put this behind us.
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N/P Mike. I never talk down to any one.

I also never ever baby anyone ether. I make them accountable for either there good actions or week points. This is were some may get the idea I'm talking down when I'm only making them accountable.

As a X tearch: In your class you seen the good in all your kids right? BUT you were harder on, and spent more time with the trublemakers and slackers in hopes they would come around.

My family and no one babied me and I am very thankfully or I wouldn't be were I am today, or have my hard working, push hard personality.

Were good and Thank you, I am glad we worked this out. The MAB people are like family.

Every one here is a hard worker and we all (including me) share opinions and thoughts openly and non judgmental. Much respect to each and every one.
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I have had this sort of conversation with lots of people about powerlifting. To me, its a mind set. You are what you want to be. You dont have to be good at it to be a powerlifter. That is why there are various classes. I think their is a big difference between a competitive bodybuilder, and someone who trains in a bodybuilding style.
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I have had this sort of conversation with lots of people about powerlifting. To me, its a mind set. You are what you want to be. You dont have to be good at it to be a powerlifter. That is why there are various classes. I think their is a big difference between a competitive bodybuilder, and someone who trains in a bodybuilding style.
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The way in which a person wraps their brain around the definition of certain titles, such as "Bodybuilder" and applies context, can a make a distinct difference in what they view.

For example:

In the biological, physiological, and in medical terms, any one person whom partakes in a form of fitness and is consistent to the point of obtaining progress and/or meeting goals, are bodybuilders. It doesn't matter whether another human being wants to tag or classify it as: A Power Lifter, A Body Builder, A Weight Lifter, A Marathon Athlete, A Triathlon Athlete, A Gymnast, A body weight only person, Football player, Basketball player, A Recreational Lifter, medical necessity to improve health, etc, or what have you.

In each case exampled, "the body is in fact building/rebuilding" due to the progressive stresses applied.

The difference in these brief examples are in the "methods applied" (and applied focus) to earn their personal goals, but ALL are building and rebuilding the body to bring about certain bodily improvements--be it strength/muscle improvements, or cardiovascular conditioning improvements.

There is no competitive stage required here with the exception of personally applied competitive goals, and personally applied aspirations to compete with and against other people other than their self. It doesn't matter which they choose, as they are equally important to the individual person.

Continuing with the example above, there are many persons in this world, who have the desire to only battle the beasts of the self, are extremely meticulous in their diet and training, are very consistent, and never set a foot on stage in a competitive event. The only desire is to set their own personal stage (and in some cases even rival the ones whom partake, and the people they associate with, and/or come in contact with). Classifications just through common sense, have to be applied in competing events because of the variables involved in the "type of competition", but this doesn't declassify a person with "like" goals whom do not compete--they are all EQUALLY IMPORTANT on the personal level, with the variable differences stemming from the degree of serious, will, want, and desire, to achieve what they want.

Its pretty simple, really. Not as difficult as some may make it.

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