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Old 12-30-2011, 06:05 PM   #21
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Way to Help MAB Grow #7:

Don't leave.

Over the years a lot of popular community members have left because they no longer are "hardcore enough" (training as much), or they have incurred an injury, or for many other reasons.

Remember, MAB is a community. Many people here miss you when you're gone. If time is short, we understand. But please don't leave because you aren't trying to crush PRs and break squat records every week.

One of the keys to helping MAB grow is welcoming lurkers. And we have an amazing amount of lurkers. People come here for information they don't find elsewhere.

You came here for that same reason. Even if you don't currently care about destroying PRs, you don't have to leave. Your wisdom and insights are missed.

It's ok to be a recreational lifter on MAB.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:14 PM   #22
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MAB is not just a powerlifting/strength training or classic lifting site. MAB is also a site for bodybuilding, recreational lifting, general fitness and conditioning, kettlebells, etc.

Sometimes bodybuilders come here and misunderstand the advice given. MAB is not anti-bodybuilding, anti-split, or anti-anything else.
I can tell you from experience that this is a hard thing to get accross to people. Everybody tends to gather into camps and throw stones at other's ideas. I tend to keep things simple and the advice I give is also simple. For this reason everybody thinks I'm anti-everything-else, but I am not. I just have my prefered methods and experiences and like to share those. But just like MAB, I'm open to gathering knowledge from wherever it may come from. This place is a jewel when it comes to different ideas being welcomed and valued.
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I can tell you from experience that this is a hard thing to get accross to people.
We've had our share of bodybuilders leave. It is hard to watch, but I am grateful for the guys like Emeka and Rich who have stuck around.

At the end of the day I personally don't care how anyone trains as long as they are working hard and progressing. The biggest challenge with lifting sites is that the vast majority of people are novices and aren't making any real progress at all (MAB excluded), so the advice is almost continually...simplify, basics, simplify, basics.

This advice can be taken out of context and interpreted as meaning that intermediate and advanced bodybuilders should train this way as well (Fullbody, dumping most isolations), or that splits or advanced training techniques are useless.

What is also almost always lost is the fact that 90% of people on boards (MAB excluded) are recreational lifters and don't want to look like Ronnie Coleman. They simply want to bench 3 wheels and add 15 pounds of muscle.

Personally, when I find a lifter not making results and focused on the wrong things, I simplifying. I get them on the basics, and focused on progression. I think this is the right thing to do for several reasons which we have explored many times elsewhere.

But, when I find a lifter that is making progression and using the big lifts (like T-Bone), if they want to play around with 4 day splits I help them.

I will also say that if a novice on this board was being trained by an experienced bodybuilder on this board I would leave them alone. I don't care if this is a 6 day double split, seriously. As long as they are working hard, progressing and having fun then have at it.

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I can tell you from experience that this is a hard thing to get accross to people. Everybody tends to gather into camps and throw stones at other's ideas. I tend to keep things simple and the advice I give is also simple. For this reason everybody thinks I'm anti-everything-else, but I am not. I just have my prefered methods and experiences and like to share those. But just like MAB, I'm open to gathering knowledge from wherever it may come from. This place is a jewel when it comes to different ideas being welcomed and valued.
Some people can't understand the concept that a weight is a weight is a weight, if that makes sense.

As you say the "camps" are split, very often, even though, if a female prefers to lift a kettlebell (which seems to be common) they are still lifting weight. I'd rather see a female lift 2 x 24kg KBs and be lifting weight than never lift a weight because the only thing deemd correct to lift (by some) is a barbell.

PS: the female, kettlebell scenario is just an analogy but it does seem that kettlebells don't appear so alien to females, in general; it might be because they aren't yet associated with bulky muscles or at least to their knowledge.
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The sugdenbarbell.co.uk site that Faz and I are on has a powerlifting league and a PB chart. The PB chart has stuff like floor to overhead, jerk, front squat, weighted pull-up etc. It's a bit of fun to see where you rank, though as the site has grown my own PBs have got pushed steadily downwards! The powerlifting league can be filtered by age, equipment etc.

I don't know whether it really fits in with the spirit of MAB, but I'll just put it out there as a suggestion.

Also: is there any mileage in getting some poundage calculators on here for the popular lifting routines? When I want to try a 5 X 5 or a Sheiko or a Russian Squat program, I always search for "routine ABC" xls. Up comes joeskopec.com, and I'm off there. He must get stacks of traffic off those. There aren't that many links for some of the Sheiko routines, for example.
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Here's a thought for the site.

The sugdenbarbell.co.uk site that Faz and I are on has a powerlifting league and a PB chart. The PB chart has stuff like floor to overhead, jerk, front squat, weighted pull-up etc. It's a bit of fun to see where you rank, though as the site has grown my own PBs have got pushed steadily downwards! The powerlifting league can be filtered by age, equipment etc.

I don't know whether it really fits in with the spirit of MAB, but I'll just put it out there as a suggestion.

Also: is there any mileage in getting some poundage calculators on here for the popular lifting routines? When I want to try a 5 X 5 or a Sheiko or a Russian Squat program, I always search for "routine ABC" xls. Up comes joeskopec.com, and I'm off there. He must get stacks of traffic off those. There aren't that many links for some of the Sheiko routines, for example.
Is the ranking programmed or a list?

As far as calculators, I add all that I can to the site and am always up for adding more. If one is missing from the tools section let me know and I will add the spreadsheet.

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I like the idea of a lifts chart with a number of different lifts on it (not just the powerlifts). Some might agree, but I think the spirit of competition gives people a drive to work harder and hit their goals.
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As far as calculators, I add all that I can to the site and am always up for adding more. If one is missing from the tools section let me know and I will add the spreadsheet.

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I think the PB chart programmed, as once you are logged in, you just update your lift and it reorders the rankings. Caveat: I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I hadn't discovered the tools section, I must admit.
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