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Old 11-17-2011, 01:19 PM   #11
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:33 PM   #12
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To them its not pushing buttons its pushing thought. The message is to imply that cultural leaders and religious leaders that may have opposing views(hate) can show they are capable of love(unhate). The message seems to have a point to it.
I think you're right, and I doubt the image is meant to be taken literally. My guess they were hoping for the shock value of it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:47 PM   #13
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So they're saying that it's ok for people with opposing political and religious views to make out?

It's sensationalism, pure and simple.
I think that the majority of what we are force fed in this country is sensationalism. This ad is no different i agree with that. However that does not mean it cannot provoke thought. You don't always have to take things for there surface value. I can still see the message they are tryin to send and it is clearly not dudes making out they simply used the male on male kissing to be extreme with proving their point.
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I think you're right, and I doubt the image is meant to be taken literally. My guess they were hoping for the shock value of it.
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I think that the majority of what we are force fed in this country is sensationalism. This ad is no different i agree with that. However that does not mean it cannot provoke thought. You don't always have to take things for there surface value. I can still see the message they are tryin to send and it is clearly not dudes making out they simply used the male on male kissing to be extreme with proving their point.
1. The fact that everyone else is doing it doesn't make it right or worthwhile. I learned that in Kindergarten.

2. I'm forced to take it for what it is because they make no attempt to tell me what the hell they actually mean. You say they're trying to prove their point, but I don't even know what that point is.

3. Like I already said, if they had a cause that was worthwhile then they woudn't need sensationalism to get my attention. Extreme images like this serve ONLY to polarize the public, which certainly doesn't serve their purpose as far as I'm concerned.
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Benetton have a long history of creating deliberately provocative ads. It's their thing.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:31 AM   #17
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I think people care too much about shit that doesn't matter.... Its ridiculous.
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1. The fact that everyone else is doing it doesn't make it right or worthwhile. I learned that in Kindergarten.
The fact that i said sensationalism was everywhere was not a justification for it. I'm simply stating that if we ignore every ad campaign and world news report that used it we would get little to no information. The way i see it is we can't take things at face value no matter where they come from. Do i think this is a stupid controversial ad HELL YEAH but does that mean i can't see the forest through the trees...NO.

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2. I'm forced to take it for what it is because they make no attempt to tell me what the hell they actually mean. You say they're trying to prove their point, but I don't even know what that point is.
The point of the ad is clear to me. The ad is saying "UNHATE". The U.S. and Venezuela have been at odds since Bush tried to get their leader tossed from office. The fact that Obama is patching that relationship is showing "UNHATE" from where there was once hate. Like you said the pic is just a sensationalist way of getting that point across. The Pope made some comments recently about muslim folks which struck up a protest and such out side the vatican. The Pope and the Sheik were patching up the "hate" in a meeting and once again the kiss shows the "UNHATE". I'm not sure why they need to explain it with words to get the point across.

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3. Like I already said, if they had a cause that was worthwhile then they woudn't need sensationalism to get my attention. Extreme images like this serve ONLY to polarize the public, which certainly doesn't serve their purpose as far as I'm concerned.
I can totally agree with that. I just think that currently these types of ads are run because of the controversy they incur and the results unfortunately that society provides. For a lot of companies even bad publicity is good publicity. I'm not tryin to say its right.....i'm just sayin that's how i see the world workin.
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I think people care too much about shit that doesn't matter.... Its ridiculous.
Yup. As long as people act insulted or weirded out about this kind of stuff (two guys kissing, two enemies hugging), it'll always make news and draw attention (And thus, be used in advertising and political campaigns).

Oh, the OUTRAGE!! [/sarcasm]
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I'm weirded out by two guys kissing, but I don't really give a damn. I have much bigger things to worry about in life... Like... What's for dinner.
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