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butterZ83 01-07-2011 10:35 PM

T-Nation bulk/cut and urine
I saw these on a T-nation article and don't know what to think?


"Q: As a nutritionist, do you think it's possible to gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously? If so, how would someone do it? The conventional wisdom says you have to add calories to build muscle, and then cut calories to drop fat.

A: According to my friend Charles Poliquin, the whole business of bulking and cutting is obsolete. Here's what he told me: "I can take a 200-pound guy with 20% body fat down to 6% in 8 weeks, with no change in body weight." That would represent a loss of 28 pounds in fat and a gain of 28 pounds in muscle.

You'd better believe there's a catch. He'd have to train twice a day, and this is how Poliquin describes the nutrition strategy: "I usually give them 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day, and the carbs come from 10 licks of a dried prune."

Not sure I'm totally in line with that recommendation, but who am I to argue with the master?"


"The idea of drinking your own urine for health benefits is not as insane as it sounds, which is why the UFC fighters you're talking about are hardly alone in their choice of hot beverages."

Abaddon 01-07-2011 10:45 PM

I don't know who this guy is.
Body recomposition IS achievable - but it's a slow process at the best of times.
I don't know what 'licks of a prune' are going to do for anyone.
Honestly, sounds like crap.

Rich Knapp 01-07-2011 10:47 PM

Thats bull crap. Thats 3 times the amount the human body naturally can produce muscle tissue in a week.

The human body under prime conditions can only produce naturally 1 lb of muscle tissue a week.

Not only that but extra protein the body converts to Fat. 200 lbs 20% = 160 lbs of LBM.

400g protein a day is insane and the guy WOULD NOT lose fat weight.

BendtheBar 01-08-2011 09:05 AM

A) If he can get someone to lose 28 pounds of fat AND gain 28 pounds of muscle in 8 weeks he would be a millionaire. In addition, a base lean bodymass of 188 is impossible unless you are on steroids or are about 6'1" or taller.

Sorry, but 200 pounds at 6% bodyfat is a LBM of 188 which is about 20 pounds more than the average natural bodybuilder competes at.

I'm sorry but this quote/article is completely out of touch with natural lifting.

B) Not drinking urine, ever.

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