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Old 02-10-2011, 09:34 PM   #41
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I'm gunna give the hybrid dieting a shot. It fits my workout schedule pretty nicely and makes sense. Done a little research on some of the data given.
I am curious to see what you are going to be doing. Consider posting a training day and non training day. I challenged my male Fit For the King client to give IF a go for the remainder of our 16 week challenge.
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I am curious to see what you are going to be doing. Consider posting a training day and non training day. I challenged my male Fit For the King client to give IF a go for the remainder of our 16 week challenge.
Well im actually going to follow the dieting split given in the video posted and made by Elliot. BUT I'm going to incorporate Russell Branjord's plan about eating carbs only at night or for your last 1-2 meals. Do a little mix and match here. My hypothesis on the matter is, tremendous amounts of fat loss within the first 4-6 weeks, then probably moving in to absolutely no fat loss. Here I will switch things up and take Russell's approach away from the equation and give that a shot for a couple weeks, if fat loss doesn't occur I will go back to his approach and switch Elliots plan a little bit.

Should be an exciting diet season lol.
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You are still eating during the day, you are just not eating in the morning.
Ah see thats different then what I meant, which is why I made a comment about shorter fasting.When I hear the term fasting I associate with starvation for religious purposes or what not. What I was saying only really applied for long time fasting, I took it as your weren't going to eat for 24hours, since I had just recently saw the Elliot Hulse video and got that concept stuck in my head. Your talking more the lines of warrior diet, which I get.

However,while the physical muscles might not break down until after until 32hours+ see what kind of energy levels you will have and how useful they will be after a 16+ period of not eating.

When you are talking about the strength athlete you have to make greater considerations, if your lifting in the 70% or less you might not feel a difference with a diet change, however when you are a few weeks out from hitting 90% and hopefully way past your prior 100% one rep max, the littlest of things can set you back. Its one thing had you been doing this kind of diet since training, but messing around with training/diet so close to a meet is risky.

My main concern is that your afraid of being overweight in you weight class and are going to do some stupid crash diet instead of a simple water cut and replenish process and bomb out of the meet, because I seen plenty lifters do that. I know your a smarter then average lifter, and know your diet well as experience with your figure competition, I just want to see you have a successful first power-lifting meet.
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You should be careful changing diets and experimenting with new things so close before a meet. You feel more energy because is burning up more resources because your not supplying it with them and you just started. Once your body realized it is not going to get any additional resources it will shut down and have a catabolic effect, hench why this form of fasting is strategically placed.

Never the less the reason why so many diets work and fail interchangeably is because the body adapts differently based on your age, gender, activity level, genetics, life style and eating habits.

Might want to ask elliot hulse for his opinion (he is a strength coach and pro strongman) as he promotes this type of diet.

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Well im actually going to follow the dieting split given in the video posted and made by Elliot. BUT I'm going to incorporate Russell Branjord's plan about eating carbs only at night or for your last 1-2 meals. Do a little mix and match here. My hypothesis on the matter is, tremendous amounts of fat loss within the first 4-6 weeks, then probably moving in to absolutely no fat loss. Here I will switch things up and take Russell's approach away from the equation and give that a shot for a couple weeks, if fat loss doesn't occur I will go back to his approach and switch Elliots plan a little bit.

Should be an exciting diet season lol.
Interesting. I have not had time to watch the video and have read Branjord's material. I have been following the leangains.com morning training protocol. No loss of energy, strength is good, gonna do some measurements today. Weight has stayed pretty much the same, I am hoping for a loss in BF and increase in lean mass. We shall see. I love the process, as it fits my lifestyle so well, just curious about the results.
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Interesting. I have not had time to watch the video and have read Branjord's material. I have been following the leangains.com morning training protocol. No loss of energy, strength is good, gonna do some measurements today. Weight has stayed pretty much the same, I am hoping for a loss in BF and increase in lean mass. We shall see. I love the process, as it fits my lifestyle so well, just curious about the results.
I stress not setting your goals too high with this. Dropping any amount of BF while making lean gains is very hard to achieve no matter what your diet/training plan is. But it can be done, just in very small amounts.

Currently I'm between 12-14%BF which puts me around 20-25lbs of fat on my body, I'm pretty well going to experiment with some different diets just to try and get down around 8-10% and then stay there until I decide to either plan some shows or bulk back to 220+
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I stress not setting your goals too high with this. Dropping any amount of BF while making lean gains is very hard to achieve no matter what your diet/training plan is. But it can be done, just in very small amounts.

Currently I'm between 12-14%BF which puts me around 20-25lbs of fat on my body, I'm pretty well going to experiment with some different diets just to try and get down around 8-10% and then stay there until I decide to either plan some shows or bulk back to 220+
Much the same here. Just measured today. In a month I have added almost a pound of muscle, less than a % pt of fat and weight has stayed pretty close. (hard to tell with wieght, because I do not have a digital scale or the cool Dr. scale). Pants are a bit tighter around the thigh, but then that measurement has gone up about 3/4 of an inch. I will be cutting down my total cals by about 200 and see what happens, but I am in this for the long haul.
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Sounds good brother, Ill be using this diet as sort of a pre-contest prep. I know its primarily used by powerlifter/strongmen, but I see it being really useful for bodybuilders as well. We shall see!
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My main concern is that your afraid of being overweight in you weight class and are going to do some stupid crash diet instead of a simple water cut and replenish process and bomb out of the meet, because I seen plenty lifters do that. I know your a smarter then average lifter, and know your diet well as experience with your figure competition, I just want to see you have a successful first power-lifting meet.
Oh, absolutely And I do appreciate your concern a lot. I have actually switched back to eating 4 meals with 1-2 protein shakes during the day, because I feel it's better for me mentally with my weight appearing more stable on the scale, and it fits my schedule better for now.

I'm not doing any crash dieting, no worries!
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