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Old 04-30-2010, 07:50 PM   #11
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I know I'll probably be flamed to hell for making the following statement, but I feel it needs to be stated.

After I saw that news item regarding the Seattle artist and then the posts in this thread, I really won't have any sympathy for anyone in the U.S. who's affected by an act of violence from angry Muslims. I mean, sh!t, we (i.e. the United States and Israel) bomb their countries and kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of their people (e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan), depose their democratically-elected leaders (e.g. Mosaddegh in Iran), commit ethnic cleansing (i.e. Israeli slaughter of Palestinians, whom the U.S. gives money, weapons, and moral support), occupy their land, much of which has tremendous significance in the religion of Islam and history of Muslim people (e.g. the holiest of Islamic holy sites - Mecca & Medina in Saudi Arabia, along with Baghdad - home of the caliphate of the Ottoman Empire, and Jerusalem - the location of the Dome of the Rock), destroy their infrastructure, including medical facilities and medicinal supplies (e.g. U.S. bombing of pharmaceutical factory in third-world Sudan), and to literally add "insult to injury", sh!t all over their religion by violating the Koran when displaying Mohammad. Good job, fellas! All you hypochristians need to ask yourself one thing: What Would Jesus Do?

Whew! I'm glad I got all that off my chest. Flame away, but know that I'm a combat veteran of the U.S.-Iraq war/occupation from 2003 to the present.
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Whew! I'm glad I got all that off my chest. Flame away, but know that I'm a combat veteran of the U.S.-Iraq war/occupation from 2003 to the present.
I'm not going to flame away. Personally I wish we would get the hell out of the entire Middle East and let them get back to killing each other.

Regarding Islam radicals...and drawing their idol ...personally I'll draw him all day. My wife can't say Christmas at work, and they have Ramadan songs at my kids' Christmas plays. I'm tired of my culture getting the shaft. I am not a religious man, but I live in a Judeo-Christian culture and I have a right to my culture. And I am tired of being told who I am and what my culture is - and that it is bad.

I love my traditions and proudly pass them on to my children. Even though Christmas and Judeo-Christian symbols and themes aren't embraced by me on a spiritual level, they are part of who I am and I am tired of people trying to take that away.

I don't mean this as an attack or a flame. But I really can't state it more plainly without it sounding offensive.

I'm tired of everything I hold dearly being attacked.

Every f*cking event at my kid's school, every damn time is multi-cultural ram-jobs. My kids never get to celebrate and express their culture. And it pisses me off.

And this isn't directed at you DW. It's just me laying out my side...
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Old 04-30-2010, 08:33 PM   #13
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LOL @ "Judeo-Christian" when the Talmud is totally anti-Christian and sh!ts all over Jesus & Mary, along with allowing pedophilia and sex with very young children, male and female. That "Judeo-Christian" term is such bullsh!t and people would realize that if they researched the religious texts.
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All the problems in the Middle East are directly caused by Islam and its modern intollerance (Muhammed only demanded conversion or death with polytheists and taxed Christians & Jews when he conquered the Arabian Peninsula). In fact, the "Palestinian" refugees were created by the Arab League demanding that Arabs in Palestine leave their homes or face death at the hands of the Arab Armies in the 7 days war... the soon-to-be Israelis wanted and welcomed the participation of Arabs in the new state, but those that stayed were caught in the middle and finally rejected by their "brothers" in Arab nations and now are used y the very bretheren threatening their death to evoke an emotional response from stupid Westerners with hardons for refugees.

Islam is the religion of animals

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I feel the way I do and I do not apologize for it. I don't believe in political correctness, if it is on your mind say it, if you don't like what is being said don't listen.
Our country was built upon christian fundamentals, I myself am not a deeply religious person, but it is apart of me and my upbringing. I am very upset at the way our society is so concerned about appeasing the masses. let's not say "Christmas" we don't want to offend the non-Christians, lets not try to enforce immigration we need to welcome everyone into the country illegally, lets not make or children say the Pledge of Allegiance, its okay to burn the flag, don't put God on our currency - that's a no-no. We as a nation need to go back to the basics, we need to be proud that we are Americans, we need to be proud that we are the baddest Mother F*ckers on the face of this planet and when someone strikes at us, annihilate them. And when that time comes don't be ashamed of it. We are who we are, I not worried about what other nations think of us, I'm not there trying to change their beliefs and traditions, stay the f*ck out of mine.
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This is why i find religion ****ing stupid.

Back ground: I was raised a Caltholic by my dad and two years ago my mom started going to a new age faggy christian church. At times of my short life I was very close to "God". My parents still want me to go to church, but i skip as often as i can get away with.

Here's why IMO religion is retarded. Why the **** cant you find God or whatever by your self? I dont need a pope (or the equivolent) to tell me what the **** to do. Church leaders are so ****ing full of them selves they think God guides them to make retarded bull **** rules. If God cares that I kneel during a certain part of the mass, than he seems like a douche.

I hope you've all seen the south park episode where in the future religion is gone, but there are then different branches of athelism. they end up fighting, thinking there ideas are better. the point is, religion just leads to controversy. religions brain wash people to think there way is the best and if they follow what some child molesting leader says, they'll live happily ever after and everyone else will burn in hell and therefore needs to change there beliefs because they of course are wrong.

Why the **** cant we just keep to our selves. i hate pushy mother ****ers who try to force their religion down your throat. lead by example, if people like the way you behave, they'll want to know what guides you.

not sure where i'm going with this, just that we should all just chill the **** out or just bomb the **** out of eachother....

while on the subject of religion i'm going to vent... this wont really contribute to the thread.
-recently i havent been trying to get close to "God". i've even thought of myself as an "atheist" at times. at the same time, i feel there is some higher being.

this is what i dont get. If God's real, why is he such an asshole. If he has all the power or whatever why be a douche and have the whole adam and eve eating the bad fruit story.

If there's a God who loves us, why is he playing games with us? Why is he putting good people through things such as cancer, brain damage, abuse, and every other extremely ****ed up thing that's very common in our world? If there is a god, at this point i think he is a ****ing prick (saying this makes me feel like i'll get into a car crash tomorrow ). He is a unjust
god, who is playing a game with us. i just dont get it. nearly everything i love to do is called "wrong". if it is i dont want to be right . i like to think of god as a person, if he's really this big of a jerk, do i want to chill with him forever? (however i guess it beats burning my skin off or just being in the ****ing ground)

no clue where i'm going with this.... i'm just a douchey 16 year old. lulz
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All the problems in the Middle East are directly caused by Islam and its modern intollerance (Muhammed only demanded conversion or death with polytheists and taxed Christians & Jews when he conquered the Arabian Peninsula). In fact, the "Palestinian" refugees were created by the Arab League demanding that Arabs in Palestine leave their homes or face death at the hands of the Arab Armies in the 7 days war... the soon-to-be Israelis wanted and welcomed the participation of Arabs in the new state, but those that stayed were caught in the middle and finally rejected by their "brothers" in Arab nations and now are used y the very bretheren threatening their death to evoke an emotional response from stupid Westerners with hardons for refugees.

Islam is the religion of animals

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Yes, Mohammad taxed those who he conquered, requiring them to pay tribute, but he always allowed the "People of the Book" (i.e. Jews and Christians) to continue observing their own religion and never destroyed their synagogues and churches, unlike what the United States and Israel does to the Muslims in the Middle East. Mohammad was far more benevolent than the conquerors who came both before and after him.

When you mentioned "the 7 days war", I assume that you're referring to the Six Day War, its proper name. In that case, I don't know where you obtain your information because you are absolutely incorrect. The only expulsion that occurred by the Arab League was within their own organization, if a member state (e.g. Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, etc.) from their group dealt favorably with Israel.

The Jews in Israel committed vast amounts of ethnic cleansing in both 1948 and 1967, killing over one hundred in one village (Deir Yassin), only one of approximately 500 Arab villages depopulated in '48 and then 18 more villages in '67, along with an innumerable amount of Arabs sent into exile as refugees from Palestine, into neighboring Arab states, due to the quest for Arab depopulation of Palestine.

List of Arab towns and villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of villages depopulated during the Arab?Israeli conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Honestly, you sound like a true Dan Harrison nut-hugging, Zionist, Islamaphobe. I remember discussing politics with him online, a few years ago, before he told me to "kill yourself" when we were in disagreement, and he said that we should commit mass-genocide by nuking the whole Middle East (except for Israel, of course) without any qualms or hesitation.


BTW, here's a "tolerant" Israeli quote for you:

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

(former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parlament], quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982)


Here's Benjamin Netanyahu, current Prime Minister of Israel, brazenly stating that 9/11 was beneficial for Israel:

"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."

Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel - Haaretz - Israel News
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I just wanted to add that I am a firm supporter of ones freedom of religion and for one to have their own opinions, even if I vehemently disagree with ones religion and/or beliefs and opinions.
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I feel the way I do and I do not apologize for it. I don't believe in political correctness, if it is on your mind say it, if you don't like what is being said don't listen.
Our country was built upon christian fundamentals, I myself am not a deeply religious person, but it is apart of me and my upbringing. I am very upset at the way our society is so concerned about appeasing the masses. let's not say "Christmas" we don't want to offend the non-Christians, lets not try to enforce immigration we need to welcome everyone into the country illegally, lets not make or children say the Pledge of Allegiance, its okay to burn the flag, don't put God on our currency - that's a no-no.
I agreed with all of that for the most part. This is where we have a serious problem:

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1) Are YOU one of the "baddest motherfvckers on the face of this planet" who are going to pick up a rifle, be in a tank, fly in a jet, or drop the bomb(s) to "annihilate them"? If not, and you're just a pussy-ass cheer-leader on the side-lines, then shut the fvck up. Enlist in the military if you're gung-ho about annihilating people. There's not much that I despise more than a chicken-hawk, Israel-loving neocon.... except maybe a liberal who wants their government to hold their dick when they urinate and control their entire life.

2) We're not there trying to change their beliefs and traditions? Are you fvcking kidding me? Look to both Iraq and Afghanistan as two current examples of "nation-building" that Ol' Bushy lied about never doing, when he was in a debate against Gore (another asshole, like Bush) before the 2000 presidential election. We go over there and tell them that their culture and society is backwards, that they should embrace democracy and the decadent, anti-Islam lifestyle of the West, yet you claim that we don't try to change their beliefs and traditions? LOL. Yeah, OK.
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I can give you #1. No I'm not military, I come from a long line of military but I choose to fight convicts on a daily basis. Still, this is how I feel jack-ass, I'm not a "pussy-ass cheer-leader" Look DW, Im trying to keep emotion out of this, Im not belittling you or your beliefs and I never called you anything. Keep it civil. If ever need I would defend my country with pride. I'm with you one the F@cking libs.

As for #2, "Im not worried about what other nations think of us, I'm not there trying to change their beliefs and traditions, stay the f*ck out of mine. " please note the use of I, not WE. MY beliefs, not everyone else.
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