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Old 02-10-2014, 04:53 PM   #21
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The test that I take is certainly not totally worthless. Kind of a "fountain of youth", if you know what I mean. The purpose for me isn't lifting related.

I've been totally honest and open about my TRT use in lifting. The tested fed that I lifted in does not have a non-tested side. I will not name it, at the request of the fed president. However, even will disclosure, I feel guilty about it. Even though I pass the test, it just doesn't sit good with me. Even though some of my competition is doing the same thing. I probably will not lift there anymore. If they had a therapeutic use exemption, I would, but they don't.
Of course, I was being facetious about it being worthless.

I haven't heard of a fed without a theraputic use exemption. I was under the impression that the tested feds did.

Plus, medically if you are within normal range then you aren't getting any extra benefit anyway, strength or recovery-wise. It just brings you up to what science says you should be producing naturally...hence why you still pass the test.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:57 PM   #22
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Steroids becomes cheating to me, when you compete in a federation that is "drug tested".
Agree! It`s flat out dishonest....
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:30 PM   #23
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Thanks for all the responses, everyone. I really enjoyed reading it all so far, and have gotten better insight on it.
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I'm not against it, you still have to do work. I've thought about trying trt at 41 because I just dont feel my strength is on par to where I should be. I gain size ok but have a hard time getting rid of the belly fat.

My package still works well so I am scared to mess with that. I hear I will want to use it even more then I do now which would probably just land me in divorce court because I'm already to active for my wife. Not saying I won't ever try any but just not at this time.
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MY PERSONAL OPINION. (based on my experience and common sense).

An intelligently applied and dosed TRT regimen is a true game changer for the older person (40+) looking to get stronger, improve performance and/or body comp. I have been "on" for a few years...low dose test with the occasional use of another compound also at lowish doses. I have notices zero negative effects and am very happy with my choice to use. I believe that intelligent doses are the key difference...my philosophy is to use the minimum to get the effect I desire.

To consider drug use cheating is as absurd as considering training natural a waste of time...both are silly things to say or believe.
What is TRT ?

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Going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume your not jerking my chain...Testosterone Replacement Therapy.
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I am on trt. At age 30 I decided to get checked out and had the t levels of a 90 year old. I have probably had issues for a long time which is why I was spinning my wheels for years.

I am making progress now, but the amount i am taking certainly didn't lead to an overnight miracle. I bust my ass for ever lb.

That said, I won't compete in a drug tested meet...additionally just because a meet is drug tested does not mean drug free

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I live in an area where gear use is legal and extremely common. I am 19 and i already know some of my friends who are of a similar age using orals and short ester testosterone. They don't know how to train, blow up really fast, then come back down when they come off and complain. They go against all advice that's preached on this forum and still make massive gains which is kind of annoying.

If you juice, I think it's best to stay on for life. A friend of mine is off cycle and he's completely depressed.
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