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Old 07-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default Fish Oil increases Prostate Cancer Risks.

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Taking omega-3 fish oil supplements may increase the risk of aggressive prostate cancer by 70% | Mail Online
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Where's the methodology.. dosage.. meh.. now I have to Google.

Update: From the university's site
Not going to give too much attention, looks shady, and embargoed paper? So we can't tell how they came up with this claim unless we request/pay for it? pff..

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Where's the methodology.. dosage.. meh.. now I have to Google.
LOL, my wife read me the article and I asked the very same questions.
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Sounds like they took candidates from an ongoing study.. were they healthy? already had cancer?
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It seems everything "may cause cancer" these days .... I am willing to bet, the good outweighs the bad on Omega 3's...IMHO
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Fish oil, as of the latest things i've read and seen in my own health, has some good benefits in the cardiovascular realm. Prostate cancer is one of those things that is easy to detect and fight if you keep up with your health care. I'm at greater risk for a heart attack than prostate cancer, so I'll take the risk. Its still better than the medication for cholesterol and blood pressure that, while reducing the symptoms, hasn't been shown to reduce the occurrence of myocardial infarction.
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Just e-mailed the "media relations" of the U, will see if I can get a copy of the paper.. lol
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Where's the methodology.. dosage.. meh.. now I have to Google.

Update: From the university's site
Not going to give too much attention, looks shady, and embargoed paper? So we can't tell how they came up with this claim unless we request/pay for it? pff..
Most academic papers have to be paid for

Normally, I would say 'It's in the Mail - they get everything wrong.' This time, I'm not sure.

Here's a quote from the Mail's article:

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Dr Kristal said: ‘As we do more and more of these studies – and I have been involved in them most of my career – we find high doses of supplements have no effect or increase the risk of the disease you are trying to prevent.

‘There is not really a single example of where taking a supplement lowers chronic disease risk.’ ...

...Although he stressed the researchers could not be certain whether the study’s participants ate oily fish or took omega-3 supplements, he said the results ‘show how complex the effects of food supplements might be’.

Dr Iain Frame of Prostate Cancer UK agreed that ‘larger and more complex studies will need to take place before we understand how the risks of a diet high in omega-3 balance against [its] benefits’.
So, without googling any further, we can see that the actual people conducting the study are far more cautious than the screaming headline might suggest.

BUT on the other hand...it's not like this is an isolated finding. Here's yet another study adding to a growing number that question the real-world benefits of food supplements. I guess we're afflicted with the 'some is good, so more must be better' mentality.

(I'm taking fish oil at the moment on the assumption that it helps fat loss - though I'd have to say I'm increasingly 50:50 on the evidence)
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Had me read the article over again T, and I just looked into this SELECT group that they picked some 2000 candidates from...

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Originally Posted by http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/noteworthy-trials/select/Page1
SELECT began enrolling patients on August 22, 2001; enrollment closed on June 24, 2004, after 35,534 participants had been enrolled. About 15 percent of the participants are African-American. Men were eligible to join the study if they were age 55 or older or, in the case of African-American men, age 50 or older. (African American men could join at younger ages because prostate cancer strikes African-American men earlier and more often than white men.)
So this research was done on men over 50 years old...
And of that 2000, some 800 already had some form of cancer including prostate.
And were taking supplements that were linked to increase in cancer risk.

Edit: Obviously I'm no researcher, but this wasn't done on healthy young males.. why should we trust it? It's interesting and all.. but seems shaky
Edit2: Good thread btw, reps to OP.

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