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Old 07-07-2013, 05:28 AM   #11
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I can't understand why you need to step on a stage in order to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter. That just makes you an actively competing bodybuilder or powerlifter.

For many powerlifting contests, there's no minimum standard of strength required. Someone could enter a powerlifting contest after a month of training with a bodyweight squat and deadlift.

There might be all sorts of reasons why someone doesn't want to compete. Not everyone is interested in measuring themselves against other people. A non-competitive powerlifter or bodybuilder might be training every bit as hard as someone who enters a formal competition, be just as committed, and achieved just as much.

For my money, if the consistent focus of your training is to improve your performance on bench press, squat and deadlift, you're a powerlifter. If the consistent focus is to attain a bodybuilder physique, you're a bodybuilder.

I would say, however, that without some modicum of achievement, it might be unwise to label yourself as either - just to avoid other people snickering.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:51 AM   #12
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I can't understand why you need to step on a stage in order to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter. That just makes you an actively competing bodybuilder or powerlifter.

For many powerlifting contests, there's no minimum standard of strength required. Someone could enter a powerlifting contest after a month of training with a bodyweight squat and deadlift.

There might be all sorts of reasons why someone doesn't want to compete. Not everyone is interested in measuring themselves against other people. A non-competitive powerlifter or bodybuilder might be training every bit as hard as someone who enters a formal competition, be just as committed, and achieved just as much.

For my money, if the consistent focus of your training is to improve your performance on bench press, squat and deadlift, you're a powerlifter. If the consistent focus is to attain a bodybuilder physique, you're a bodybuilder.

I would say, however, that without some modicum of achievement, it might be unwise to label yourself as either - just to avoid other people snickering.
Yup. What he said.

Never bodybuilt, but powerlifting took on a whole new aspect when I started to compete. You can add up totals in the gym all you want, but putting it all together on one single day (something I still haven't done in terms of my best effort) is a whole 'nother animal.

I respect anyone that does it however they want to do it. BUT if you're going to call yourself a powerlifter or a body builder, I think you have to put yourself out there once in a while.
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:22 AM   #13
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I can't understand why you need to step on a stage in order to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter. That just makes you an actively competing bodybuilder or powerlifter.

For many powerlifting contests, there's no minimum standard of strength required. Someone could enter a powerlifting contest after a month of training with a bodyweight squat and deadlift.

There might be all sorts of reasons why someone doesn't want to compete. Not everyone is interested in measuring themselves against other people. A non-competitive powerlifter or bodybuilder might be training every bit as hard as someone who enters a formal competition, be just as committed, and achieved just as much.

For my money, if the consistent focus of your training is to improve your performance on bench press, squat and deadlift, you're a powerlifter. If the consistent focus is to attain a bodybuilder physique, you're a bodybuilder.

I would say, however, that without some modicum of achievement, it might be unwise to label yourself as either - just to avoid other people snickering.
Beautifully summed up Tannhauser. 100% agree. I need not post now what I was thinking of.
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Some of us have neither intent to bodybuild for the stage nor powerlift in competition, and are training with weights (and even bodyweight/calisthenics) to improve athletic strength and capability.

Thus lifting can be not just an end but a means, and not necessarily an identity.
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I believe to tell somebody that you are a bodybuilder, or a powerlifter, or a weightlifter, or a strongman, or even a football player or baseball player, you have to have competed in those sports at a competitive level.

If somebody joins a football or baseball team, but always sits on the sidelines and never gets to dress-out, are they a player? If somebody enters a bodybuilding competition and they are fat, pale, and have no muscle, are they a bodybuilder? If a healthy, full-grown adult male enters a powerlifting meet and totals 500 lbs, are they a powerlifter? Just because you passed your Algebra final, are you now a mathematician?

Not to be a total jackass, but I do not believe that everybody should get a trophy just for showing up. Put in the time and dedication, make some big improvements, then go and put your skills up against the big boys. Be competitive, earn the title, and then call yourself whatever you want.

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I've always like the term "Physical Culturalist" for myself and all those who just want to better themselves through lifting, conditioning, and diet.
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I can't understand why you need to step on a stage in order to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter. That just makes you an actively competing bodybuilder or powerlifter.

For many powerlifting contests, there's no minimum standard of strength required. Someone could enter a powerlifting contest after a month of training with a bodyweight squat and deadlift.

There might be all sorts of reasons why someone doesn't want to compete. Not everyone is interested in measuring themselves against other people. A non-competitive powerlifter or bodybuilder might be training every bit as hard as someone who enters a formal competition, be just as committed, and achieved just as much.

For my money, if the consistent focus of your training is to improve your performance on bench press, squat and deadlift, you're a powerlifter. If the consistent focus is to attain a bodybuilder physique, you're a bodybuilder.

I would say, however, that without some modicum of achievement, it might be unwise to label yourself as either - just to avoid other people snickering.
I almost missed this post but I agree. Saved me a bunch of typing too. And for those that don't compete, it is difficult to categorise other than with terms that people already understand.

Who's to say that a person does not compete for lack of funding, travel complications, or other things that just prevent them from doing so.
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My views on this changed after competing. There is a change in the mindset and core of the person after they enter a competition and compete. People can call themselves whatever they want and I won't get too grumpy about it, but until you step on the stage and prove it, a part of what makes you a powerlifter or strongman is missing.
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My views on this changed after competing. There is a change in the mindset and core of the person after they enter a competition and compete. .
Ah now Brutus, isn't there the faintest whiff of snobbery about all this?The only change I noticed after I competed was that I went on and on about it to anyone who would listen, and then referred to myself as a competitive powerlifter to distinguish myself from the riff-raff.

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To be fair, there's the faintest whiff of snobbery about almost anything. Are you a teacher or a professor? A trashman or a waste engineer? It's all semantics at some point, but how you look at yourself and how you define others is always going to involve some snobbery unless you're mother Theresa, and even she became a saint to solidify her status above the great unwashed.
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