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Old 06-26-2013, 02:55 PM   #1
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Well everyone, I'm getting sick and tired of the rat race here in the United States of America. I'm of old school mentality. Even as a child I can remember having dreams of a slow peaceful existence. Like many people I ended down a different path and learned to be happy and deal with what life brought me, instead of scratching and fighting for what I have really always wanted, ironically it's not much, basically just a peaceful place to think and enjoy solitude with close friends and family.

As many of you know state of affairs in the U.S. is not exactly copacetic. And from what I can see, being a small business owner it is becoming worse. Jobs are still hard to come by and I'm not seeing my dollars increase in value. You can call me cynical I'm in fear of a total economical collapse.

Having been a scrapper and fighting for everything I've ever had since the age of 11 delivering newspapers and doing yard work and such, I know the the U.S. is full of like minded hard working folks and would eventually rebound and potentially come back stronger. That is if China doesn't eventually own us (that may be stupid, just making a point).

Really what scares me most is how large corporations dictate legislation by lobbying with their humongo bankrolls. They care nothing about our interest or welfare. They care about padding that bankroll and power, at all cost. I don't see a bright future for the layman/small business man, or at least no breaks for us in the near future.

Call me a coward, trader, or whatever you want, but at 38 years old I'm not getting any younger and I'm not gaining anymore respect for a country that I once loved and was proud to scrap and fight for. So this brings me to a question for all you fine folks.

Have any of you ever visited South America? What was your take? Did you feel safe, and welcome? What jobs are available for English speaking Gringos with limited Spanish speaking skill?

Thanks for reading. Recently put in application for Visa to travel the majority of South America and Mexico. To gain full citizenship in Uruguay one only has to prove an income of $500 a month! I may end up staying but I think it's extremely pertinent that all U.S. citizens maintain an upstanding Visa. If there is an economic collapse I'd bet my bottom this so called free country will make it nearly impossible for any of us to escape



Having grown up south of San Diego, seven miles from Mexico I've always loved the Latin culture, and have much respect for their passion to just enjoy life, without a worry in the world

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Old 06-26-2013, 04:49 PM   #2
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A very interesting post. Over here in the UK, I see many of the same things that you do and it worries me.

I know Big Government is now viewed as the enemy by many Americans, but what we're witnessing in the US, UK and other countries is exactly what happens when governments hand their power over to business. Over the years, business has demanded more freedom from intervention, and successive governments have handed it to them. It's the triumph of laissez-faire capitalism. This undoubtedly can create more wealth, but I see several problems with it:

1. There's less diversity. It gets harder and harder for small businesses to compete against the giants,
2. The big corporations have a disproportionate amount of power
3. The distribution of wealth is much less equitable than any government would make it, with the overwhelming majority of profit flowing into a tiny percentage of the population.
4. Bill Gates aside, few big businesses these days have the sense of a business being a social contract. Environmental and social concerns are supported only so far as consumer pressure makes them be supported.

I see capitalism as a good thing, but unfettered capitalism is like a train with no-one on the brakes.

As for the dream of escaping to Latin America...well, I can really see the appeal. And maybe it would work. But the problem is really getting a feel for the place before moving there. You visit a place for a week, or a few weeks, and everything seems fantastic. The food tastes better, people are nicer and so on. But some of this is a halo effect from your own circumstances: you're on holiday, or at least breaking from routine, you're experiencing new things and so on.

Years ago, I traveled and worked in Australia for eight months. And though it's a fantastic country with a great lifestyle and lovely people, I knew after that spell there that it wasn't for me. I was homesick through to my bones. The point is to get a real picture of life might be like there, you have to stay for some time, and try coping with everyday life. Things that strike you as vibrant and quirky in the short term might turn out to be maddening and then intolerable later.

Having said all that, you're not even 40 yet, so you still have time for a few gambles and have plenty left of miles in the tank if it doesn't work out.

Can't offer advice on South America, as my sole experience consists of ten days touring round Argentina.
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Panama, Honduras, Colombia or Mexico are cheap if you are (U.S. RETIREE) or have a secure income. Yes, I'm full blood puertorrican, born and raise in the island. But I do live (10 years) in the states. I will no go at this point to some of these places if I cannot understand their language, culture or way of life. There are too many ways to "get lost" in a country like that. How I know...I'm in the Army and I work with Latin American countries. nuff said. Good luck in your adventure...
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A very interesting post. Over here in the UK, I see many of the same things that you do and it worries me.

I know Big Government is now viewed as the enemy by many Americans, but what we're witnessing in the US, UK and other countries is exactly what happens when governments hand their power over to business. Over the years, business has demanded more freedom from intervention, and successive governments have handed it to them. It's the triumph of laissez-faire capitalism. This undoubtedly can create more wealth, but I see several problems with it:

Being in business I'm not necessarily against a trickle down type of business plan. I've seen it work, even in small business. Generally speaking when the superior is receiving breaks and doing well the people underneath reap some benefit, even in a greedy scheme. What scares me is the bribing and manipulation of politics and getting things passed. If a big corporation doesn't want joe blow in office for whatever reason, he won't be there. It's as simple as that, even if he's the next Franklin Roosevelt or Eisenhower. Does not matter how great there ideas are and if they're the man for the job. If they aren't on big corporation agenda, they will not be elected. They have no chance whatsoever, and that saddens me the most

1. There's less diversity. It gets harder and harder for small businesses to compete against the giants,
2. The big corporations have a disproportionate amount of power
3. The distribution of wealth is much less equitable than any government would make it, with the overwhelming majority of profit flowing into a tiny percentage of the population.
4. Bill Gates aside, few big businesses these days have the sense of a business being a social contract. Environmental and social concerns are supported only so far as consumer pressure makes them be supported.

I could not agree more. The problem is there's no perfect plan. Either have a socialistic plan where the government doles out money and makes an even platform or stick with capitalism. I am for the latter, that's what america was built on. But capitalism isn't what capitalism used to be, with the influence of the huge mega wealthy corporations, now. During the time of our forefathers there wasn't relatively enough to bribe politicians and others involved. IMO money really is the root of evil. On the other hand I think socialism could work.

I see capitalism as a good thing, but unfettered capitalism is like a train with no-one on the brakes.

Yes. My sentiments exactly

As for the dream of escaping to Latin America...well, I can really see the appeal. And maybe it would work. But the problem is really getting a feel for the place before moving there. You visit a place for a week, or a few weeks, and everything seems fantastic. The food tastes better, people are nicer and so on. But some of this is a halo effect from your own circumstances: you're on holiday, or at least breaking from routine, you're experiencing new things and so on.

haha. Sometimes I blinded by the pretty lights. Although, I'm certain about my desire to lead a slower paced life, outside of propaganda an corruption. Integrity is all a man really has. There is no longer very much here and I don't see that changing, especially under these circumstances.

Years ago, I traveled and worked in Australia for eight months. And though it's a fantastic country with a great lifestyle and lovely people, I knew after that spell there that it wasn't for me. I was homesick through to my bones. The point is to get a real picture of life might be like there, you have to stay for some time, and try coping with everyday life. Things that strike you as vibrant and quirky in the short term might turn out to be maddening and then intolerable later.

Words of wisdom from an obviously very wise man. Thank you for that.

Having said all that, you're not even 40 yet, so you still have time for a few gambles and have plenty left of miles in the tank if it doesn't work out.

Can't offer advice on South America, as my sole experience consists of ten days touring round Argentina.
Wow, that was very kind of you. Thank you for the caring post You've definitely given me a few things to mull around. Cheers Tannhauser.
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Panama, Honduras, Colombia or Mexico are cheap if you are (U.S. RETIREE) or have a secure income. Yes, I'm full blood puertorrican, born and raise in the island. But I do live (10 years) in the states. I will no go at this point to some of these places if I cannot understand their language, culture or way of life. There are too many ways to "get lost" in a country like that. How I know...I'm in the Army and I work with Latin American countries. nuff said. Good luck in your adventure...
You obviously know much better that I. I can feel you on Columbia and any other place on the border, I'd much stay away from those places and all of the drug problems. I should also elaborate on my spanish speaking skills. Forgive me it has been awhile. Veinte anos antes vive en chula vista, california y estudie espanol en la esquela por cuatro anos. Hope I didn't butcher that too much

Would it make a difference if I was fluent in spanish? Where I lived and went to school over 50% of the population was spanish speaking. I became nearly fluent in those years and think without much work I could gain that back. Also, it was always easy for me to chum up to the latinos and like I said I have always loved and admired the culture. Being somewhat of a chameleon I've never had problems blending in. Do you think that might make a difference?

Thank you very much for the reply but I'm a stubborn s.o.b. and I don't think anyone can stop me. Hopefully you all don't read about me in the newspaper

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I just find it funny that so many from Mexico and South America are fleeing to the U.S.A. I guess the grass is always greener. . .
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I just find it funny that so many from Mexico and South America are fleeing to the U.S.A. I guess the grass is always greener. . .

Yes, I agree that the saying is in most cases so entirely true. Myself, if I didn't have means of making very decent money on the other side I would definitely have no desire to venture over there. Without money, shelter, food, water, and entertainment the grass is not greener anywhere.
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Why not just become more self-reliant and homestead? There are so many states in the US where this is possible. So much land.

It doesn't matter where you do if you don't become more self-reliant. I don't mean for that to sound like a lecture. I'd just rather homestead in a familiar location.
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