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Hunterace 05-13-2013 08:59 AM

$350,000 burger
 
Ok, WTF? Why is this a scientific goal? What a waste of $$$!!!


$350K burger grown in a laboratory tastes 'reasonably good' | Fox News

5kgLifter 05-13-2013 09:03 AM

...because what we always needed was synthetic meat to further screw up the human body...yup, could have bought and reared quite a few animals for that and got more than one burger from them :D

Hunterace 05-13-2013 09:10 AM

I just don't get it? Along with funded research into many things that don't matter, vs curing any of the many diseases, feeding the poor, lost goes on and on!

5kgLifter 05-13-2013 09:14 AM

Well, their theory would probably be along the lines that it's a viable alternative to meat and can be mass produced, eventually, and therefore feed the poor; we all know those would be reasons they'd put forward but the reality would be much different.

Hunterace 05-13-2013 09:20 AM

I think it's more based on pleasing groups like PETA so no animals need to be killed:rolleyes:, cause we are the only ones that cause them to die!:)

Davis 05-13-2013 10:27 AM

...and yet people get so mad about genetic changes made to crops. (Which I don't know if that's good or bad, and I really don't care personally) Has history and science not already proven that man made food is horrible for the body?

Tannhauser 05-13-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunterace (Post 362665)
Ok, WTF? Why is this a scientific goal? What a waste of $$$!!!

It's a scientific goal because there are seven billion people on the planet, and the number is growing. Meat production is inherently inefficient. It uses inordinate amounts of land, and there are massive losses in ebnergy going up the food chain. In addition, cattle produce methane, a contributor to climate change. Forested areas are cleared in South America to make room for cattle. The list goes on.

The need for animal protein is likely to grow even greater as a result of increasing wealth. Take India for exampe - a burgeoning middle class in a country of one billion. Higher demand pushes animal protein prices higher, pricing many out of the market.

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Originally Posted by Hunterace (Post 362668)
I just don't get it? Along with funded research into many things that don't matter, vs curing any of the many diseases, feeding the poor, lost goes on and on!

The funding for this research apparently came from an anonymous donor. The use of research is to some extent in the eye of the beholder. One argument is that research is a bit like a jigsaw puzzle -you never know where an application may lead down the line. Personally, I think the primary characteristic of humans is curiosity about the world, and that - provided research is ethical - that's justification enough.

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Originally Posted by Davis (Post 362717)
Has history and science not already proven that man made food is horrible for the body?

No.
Even though most people on MAB will tell you different, a non trans-fat margarine is likely to be better for your health than butter. Most people on here are taking 'engineered' foods in the forrm of multivitamins (though this is probably a bad example). Preservatives stop harmful pathogens forming that have devastating effects on health. Rehydration packs save thousands from the ravages of dysentry.

I'll agree that plenty of processed foods are horrible, but the trap is in thinking natural = good, artificial = bad. That's too simple.

Tannhauser 05-13-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunterace (Post 362677)
I think it's more based on pleasing groups like PETA so no animals need to be killed:rolleyes:, cause we are the only ones that cause them to die!:)

I'm not in PETA. I'd prefer to eat meat that didn't involve animals suffering for my predilections.

(I'm not suggesting all farm animals live horrible lives).

kitarpyar 05-13-2013 05:19 PM

When Erwin Schrodinger was awarded the Nobel prize in 1933 for his famous equation, he was asked by a reporter how was an abstract mathematical equation even useful and what was the point of supporting research like that.

Few decades later, Schrodinger's equation forms the basis of understanding the barrier tunelling phenomena that is a cornerstone of modern day electronics.

Moral of the story - the benefits of basic research is not always immediately apparent.

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Originally Posted by Hunterace (Post 362665)
Why is this a scientific goal?

From what I understood (and I am no biologist - may be I am wrong about this), the scientific challenge is to get a better hang of tissue engineering. The effort was based around engineering artificial meat using stem cells. I suppose the burger is basically the proof that artificial meat is a possibility using stem cells, and this is basically a stem cell research project, with the "burger" aspect being more of a headline grabber.

One of the issues with populist headline grabbing in a work like this is the actual message can easily get lost in translation (might ave happened here). Its a challenge that scientists will always have to grapple with - popularizing their work, and reaching out to the rest without obfuscating their core message.


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