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Old 11-09-2012, 12:07 AM   #1
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Free Depravity.

Time to get the f*ck out of CA.

Idaho, Utah here I come. Screw this freak show!

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Old 11-09-2012, 12:14 AM   #2
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Yes, because this is just what our nation needs to be tending to right now. Ok, so it's one city, but still... Good lord.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:00 AM   #3
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Where are our standards in todays society? Maybe I was raised old fashion and my views are different, but its crap like this I don't like or agree with.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #4
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Jesus Christ, have some respect. Whether or not you agree with the uninsured, free surgery part or not, show some ****ing respect to the people going through it. This is the 21st century.
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Jesus Christ, have some respect. Whether or not you agree with the uninsured, free surgery part or not, show some ****ing respect to the people going through it. This is the 21st century.
As you use the Lord's name in vain and offend the Christians.

I have nothing against any transgender individual. I can't imagine what they go through. It must be horrible. But I do think San Francisco politics is heading into a danger zone. The free stuff well will dry up sooner or later. The cost of living out there seemed through the roof when I visited. That's just my semi-uninformed opinion, as an outsider. I reserve the right to be wrong.

I also want it to be know that if Goat is referring to the transgendered as freaks, well, not a fan of that opinion.

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Old 11-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #6
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"Free" surgery is not free. I do not want any of my tax dollars or don't want to have to pay an inflated health care costs to cover a surgery for someone to "change". Basic health care costs are WAY to high now.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:10 AM   #7
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People should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies and their lives, I can respect that. But using other people's tax money to suppor these changes are not right in my eyes.

I can understand people wanting to change, but like other things in life it is a want not a need and should be treated as such. Meaning that if they want it, they should be required to pay for it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:09 AM   #8
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Science should be law. Gender can not be chosen, and should not be altered. But this is the socio-liberalisation of the country, and the people continue to elect those who support it. I will wait for the eventual tyrant to take power, and start putting people back their place so once again we will have a successful country as a world power. Don't change what my country was or should be. In the meantime, I'm not a doomsday prepper, but I will do whatever is needed to ensure the safety, security, and prosperity of myself and my family.

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Old 11-09-2012, 10:11 AM   #9
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Respect, would be showing some personal responsibility. And not expecting other's to pay for your deviant life style choices.

Transgender people having surgery's at the expense of the people benefits society how? Isn't the idea that all benefit from the taxes we chose to pay?

The left wants, wants, wants, why cant they ever pay for it themselves?

As for name calling, tough. I support the GOP and am labeled a racist because of it. I believe in Jesus and am labeled a backwards religious nut.

You want me to respect these people, then please go to them and tell them to get the f*ck out of my pocket!
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There's an interesting and complex ongoing debate around this subject and the whole issue of gender dysmorphia (GiD: the feeling of being the wrong gender). Two main viewpoints are:

1) Gender dysmorphia is a psychological condition that, when it appears in childhood, requires psychological treatment. When it appears in adults, it's still a 'condition', in the same way as depression or an anxiety disorder is.

2) Gender dysmorphia is effectively a physical condition - a female brain in a male body, or vice versa. This is fixable through surgery. But it's not an illness as such

Should GID be regarded as a mental illness? Yes, say some transgender people - if it's a mental illness, then insurance packages will pay for expensive surgery and drugs which otherwise they couldn't afford. No, say others, no way am I ill - I'm just in the wrong body.

The appointment of Kenneth Zucker to oversee how dysmorphia is regarded in DSM -V (the latest manual for mental illness) was greeted with alarm by many transgender people, because he's firmly in the (1) camp above. They see it as being just as ridiculous as homosexulaity being in the DSM (it wasn't taken out until 1973).
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