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Old 08-13-2012, 02:03 PM   #11
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Fasted training screws around with my blood sugar, but I have metabolic issues as a former diabetic that aren't completely gone. However, keep in mind that if your liver likes to spew glucose, its better to not stay in a fasted state.
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i eat 4-5 meals a day. I like having fuel before lifting so i have 2 meals before, and 2-3 meals after to recover. my prefrence.
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Training fasted to me means having nothing apart from water, but I've seen guys who say they train fasted but then in later posts state that they use pre-workout supps and a whole host of other things; so, when you say that you train in a fasted state, exactly what does it mean, for you?
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I've done IF on and off for the past year and a half. Its my favorite way to eat. I basically eat once a day most of the time. So in reality i do a 23.5 hour fast daily. Works great for me. Sometimes i eat some greek yogurt or an apple or something during the day. Somedays like today, i got hungry and ravaged a little taco bell . But in all reality thats because i didnt eat enough last night. Weekends get me off schedule most of the time...

I feel terrible if i eat too close to my workouts now...
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Anything under 1500 cals at least 2 hours before a workout is training in a fasted state for me
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No. Intermittent fasting can be any number of fasting and feeding protocols. What you are describing has been popularised by Leangains, where he recommends 16/8. The 24 hour fasts are usually split up by days rather than hours and is more common to the Eat Stop Eat IF protocol.

I also stated the eating window/2 hours a day is what I typically use.
Of course. I don't know if I'd be able to do that and still get in all my calories.

I hear Serge Nubret used to eat just one meal of ~4lbs of meat on top of rice and beans every day.

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Wow, I'm very interested in this stuff. Scarfing down anything prior to training is second nature to me, so I'm fascinated by the idea that really strong guys use train in a fasted state. The few times I've tried, I haven't felt good.

There was a 'Horizon' programme ( BBC's flagship science programme) last week -looking at the research into fasting, health, ageing, body composition etc.
The first couple times have felt a bit odd to me too, but I adjusted pretty quickly. I'd like to look into that program.

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I have always been a big believer that you should have a nutritious breakfast but I tried this today. I had a protein shake mixed with milk for breakfast. Then an hour later I did my workout. I was very suprised that I saw no lack of energy and had a very good workout. I had a full breakfast after my workout and I feel great. Just goes to show, you never know until you try.
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Fasted training screws around with my blood sugar, but I have metabolic issues as a former diabetic that aren't completely gone. However, keep in mind that if your liver likes to spew glucose, its better to not stay in a fasted state.
Pre-existing conditions can affect it, I'm sure. I tend towards a high fat/protein and low carb diet though, so I use the fat for fuel instead of all glucose.

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Training fasted to me means having nothing apart from water, but I've seen guys who say they train fasted but then in later posts state that they use pre-workout supps and a whole host of other things; so, when you say that you train in a fasted state, exactly what does it mean, for you?
I never use any supplements (unless you count a vitamin), so fasted training for me is coffee, tea, or water and nothing else before you train.
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Wow, I'm very interested in this stuff. Scarfing down anything prior to training is second nature to me, so I'm fascinated by the idea that really strong guys use train in a fasted state. The few times I've tried, I haven't felt good.

There was a 'Horizon' programme ( BBC's flagship science programme) last week -looking at the research into fasting, health, ageing, body composition etc.
I too have tried it and it did not work for me. I would rather have something to eat in my body. All I coudl think of was food while I was working out and was never so glad to have been done with a workout to pig out.
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I've done IF on and off for the past year and a half. Its my favorite way to eat. I basically eat once a day most of the time. So in reality i do a 23.5 hour fast daily. Works great for me. Sometimes i eat some greek yogurt or an apple or something during the day. Somedays like today, i got hungry and ravaged a little taco bell . But in all reality thats because i didnt eat enough last night. Weekends get me off schedule most of the time...

I feel terrible if i eat too close to my workouts now...
So more of a Warrior Diet then, eh? Nice.

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Anything under 1500 cals at least 2 hours before a workout is training in a fasted state for me
Actually guys I'm hypoglycemic so I have to eat every 2-3 hours so don't really have a choice but to eat before a workout.
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Actually guys I'm hypoglycemic so I have to eat every 2-3 hours so don't really have a choice but to eat before a workout.
I had no idea. My liver and I don't get along, so if I train fasted, it kicks out glucose until my blood sugar hits over 150. Bodies are weird.
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