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Old 05-29-2012, 01:31 PM   #1
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I saw online today that a hospital in Texas has denied applicants due to their BMI. Meaning if you are fat then you should not apply because you will not get the job even if you are qualified. Is this acceptable do you think? And more so is it legal?
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i dont think it is entirely legal but you would have to make a stink about it so it limits the fat applicants for sure. I personally agree that hiring unfit employees is good practice. Using BMI to do this is a joke if you train hard for a year you will probably be classified as overweight even if you have low bf
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It may not be legal, but I support a company's right to hire who they want.
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It may not be legal, but I support a company's right to hire who they want.
I second that. I find it appalling the number of obese nurses hanging around hospital doors smoking.
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Well I disagree. You may be fat, high BMI, bla bla bla but still be healthier than the scrawny bloke next to ya. How about hiring the qualified person.
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Well I disagree. You may be fat, high BMI, bla bla bla but still be healthier than the scrawny bloke next to ya. How about hiring the qualified person.
I concur, I would take a fat nurse that know what he/she is doing over a fit one that doesn't.

Kind of reminds me of the Army, plenty of NCOs that can run, wear a pressed uniform and spit shined boots but cannot do their job.
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I concur, I would take a fat nurse that know what he/she is doing over a fit one that doesn't.

Kind of reminds me of the Army, plenty of NCOs that can run, wear a pressed uniform and spit shined boots but cannot do their job.
We all know the BMI stuff is crap. But I still say a company should be able to hire whoever they want. I always see fat nurses hanging out smoking around hospital entrances and I don't feel it presents a good image for the hospital. (thats my personal view) Qualification should always be the utmost consideration when hiring, but not the only one.
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If they can prove bona fide occupational qualification(thank you business law class) then yes. If not though it would be discrimination and therefore illegal.

I would rather have someone who could do the job then someone who looks like they could do the job.
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If my memory for trivia serves me correctly the number one reason nurses go out of the field and/or onto disability is back injuries. Being out of shape and carrying a lot of weight around the midsection makes it harder to lift properly which as we all know leads to back injuries. As for the BMI qualification probably not the best way to set the standard but hopefully they'll apply some common sense and not penalize the weightlifters and muscle heavy types, perhaps a caliper body fat test or a lifting and flexibility test would be more appropriate.
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