Originally Posted by MuscleandBrawn
You CAN be catabolic when you're natural. This has been studied over and over again. After about one hour of training, workouts become catabolic.
Overtraining reduces bodily testosterone levels, and makes it extremely difficult for naturals to gain muscle.
Long, high volume workouts are bad for naturals. They are good for steroid users because test levels don't drop.
I agree 100%! There are also foods that increase estrogen which can be anti-anabolic to some extent.