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Old 04-17-2010, 06:29 PM   #65
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Yuri Vlasov didn't begin lifting until he joined the Air Force Academy in 1953. He wasn't on the World stage until 1959. Soviet lifters were using testosterone long before Vlasov. Paul Anderson was not the first American lifter to use steroids. In fact, he was retired from competition when Bill March and Tony Garcy - the real first American Weightlifters to use steroids - started experimenting with Dianabol. There's no evidence whatsoever that Anderson ever used steroids.
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2) i really don't give a crap about all this years, the avaliability of the stuff etc., Reg Park used close to Arnold (who started using gear at what? 16?) and Draper (who admitted the usage too), it just can't be so that an athlete no matter how dramatically genetically gifted he is looks close to the enhahced ones.
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Park was Mr. Universe in 1951 when Arnold was 4 years old and the two never met until 15 years after that, in 1966. He was Mr. Universe 14 years before Draper. Even though Park's career spanned into theirs he was, in fact, from a different generation. Arnold used steroids, Draper used steroids, but that says nothing of Park, who started before they were available. Perhaps he did use them in the 1960s, but not before 1958 - when he is generally considered to have been in his best shape anyway. The fact that Park was as good or better in 1952 than he was in 1972 lends some creedence to his claim of never having used them, even when they became known and available in the 1960s. But I agree that it's usually not hard to spot the high-level drug users.
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