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Old 04-17-2010, 06:24 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by JordanW
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Your an idiot, these guys werent natural, testosterone has be widely used since the 1930s, in 1950 it was full blown in every gym across the globe, Test and Dbol were outrageously popular
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Complete clueless ignorance. At the very least read the rest of this thread before making a fool of yourself. Testosterone wasn't FDA approved until 1950. The Soviets were the first known users for athletic purposes, starting between 1952 and 1954. John Grimek, Jim Park and Yaz Kuzahara were Guinea pigs for the first known 'trials' of testosterone on lifters/bodybuilders in the west in 1955 and had unsatisfactory results thus leading to Ziegler's co-development of Dianabol. Dbol itself wasn't developed until 1956 and wasn't FDA approved until 1958. West coast bodybuilders such as Bill Pearl and even Nautilus inventor Arthur Jones have said that it was Nilevar, not Dbol or testosterone, that was the first anabolic/androgenic they used, starting in 1958. The U.S. Weightlifting team were the first known athletes to begin experimenting with Dbol (Ziegler, the team physician, having been one of its co-developers) on a very limited basis of three lifters in 1959 (possibly late '58). Most bodybuilders and lifters, even at the elite levels, didn't learn of "tissue building drugs" until the early-to-mid 1960s - this has been verified by Bill Starr, Larry Scott, Don Howorth, Vern Weaver, Chet Yorton, Reg Park, etc, etc, etc. By that time Reg Park had won the Mr. Universe at least twice (1951 and 1958) and once before even the Soviets are believed to have begun using. Reeves and Grimek were Mr. America, Mr. USA, Mr. World and Mr. Universe and were retired from competition before testosterone was even FDA approved. Without FDA approval drug companies have no market for their products and are only able to make limited amounts for lab purposes only.

It is terribly ignorant and incorrect posts such as yours that diminish the value of online bodybuilding forums and turn them into jokes.
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