Something like Eder, I guess.
I'm assuming he was natural, as claimed.* Most "natties" these days, I don't believe it. I'm sure some
are, but most... nope. So it's very hard to tell if any given modern example of a male body represents a remotely achievable archetype, if training all natural
. Which used to piss me off, but now, I just shrug and assume it's almost all bullshit, because it probably is.
And hence, I look to those who used to be around when roids (etc.) either weren't being used, or at least weren't as hugely abused, and not necessarily by almost everyone
* But even if so, almost certainly a genetic freak, fwiw.
edit: Not that I care about anyone using PEDs, per se
, just for the record. It's just all the lying, the BS, the false hopes and irrelevant images presented to many, and so on, that I don't like at all