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Old 10-24-2013, 12:04 PM   #5
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Something like Eder, I guess.

I'm assuming he was natural, as claimed.* Most "natties" these days, I don't believe it. I'm sure some are, but most... nope. So it's very hard to tell if any given modern example of a male body represents a remotely achievable archetype, if training all natural. Which used to piss me off, but now, I just shrug and assume it's almost all bullshit, because it probably is.

And hence, I look to those who used to be around when roids (etc.) either weren't being used, or at least weren't as hugely abused, and not necessarily by almost everyone, anyway.

* But even if so, almost certainly a genetic freak, fwiw.


edit: Not that I care about anyone using PEDs, per se, just for the record. It's just all the lying, the BS, the false hopes and irrelevant images presented to many, and so on, that I don't like at all.
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