lol ok, I know there are some people out there that can get like that and they are some of the lucky few, I train with a guy who is like a brother 20+ years of friendship. He is big and ripped and doesn't take one thing except the basic's. He gave me soooo much **** for taking tren and told me god gave you what you have and what you can look forward to, He didn't want you to cheat the system.
I said F u man lol! We all were not created with super genes that allow you to grow like that.