Me and a couple guys at the gym were talking about realistic first year expecations. One of my friends is a huge follower of Stuart McBrawn, or whatever his name is. The hardgainer author. I brought up this post from Casey Butt's blog. Casey says:
The WeighTrainer Blog: Rate of Drug-Free Muscle Gain
Pipe dreams and promises aside, if you're a typical beginner you can realistically expect to build about ten to twenty pounds of muscle in your first year of serious training. Structurally very large men may even get closer to 25 pounds under the right circumstances, while structurally very small men may max out at under 10.
So my friend says that most men won't come near a 10 pound gain in a year. He believes most of us are hardgainers.
My question is, what arer realistic first year expectations for strength and size gains if the guy has a goo dapproach and diet?