"Natural" is such a loaded question too. Suppose a guy has low test or whatever and takes prescribed meds? Is he no longer natural? What about a kid in college bulking up with anabolics because his coach says he can go pro if he's bigger, but he doesn't go pro, stops using and years later decides to compete in lifting, can he compete as a natural? Etc. If you have to split hairs about this and that, then the question is faulty.
I will always believe what someone says until I have proof otherwise. But I do wish users would stay out of lower level competitions, away from newer lifters, and not write workouts or talk about training that naturals simply cannot do or talk about size goals naturals simply cannot hit.
Just my .02 Not intended to offend anybody. I generally do not care what people do, but it does bother me that some look for that chemical edge before they max out their natural potential. I understand why some do it, but wish it wasn't so easy for them to do it. I don't think that is a healthy way to look at a challenge when you are relatively new to the game.
Pro athletes doing whatever doesn't bother me at all, but kids in school? Guys who have only lifted a few years just so they can win some local meets or be the biggest guy in their gym? No, I don't see that being good at all.
I am Anton Zdravko Martin!
Best meet lifts: Sq 150 Kg (330 lb), Bench 120 Kg (264), DL 160 (352) @89 Kg (197)
Best gym lifts: Sq 375, Bench 280 (pause), DL 385 @205 or less
Goals beyond my wildest dreams, 600 Kg raw total, 200/160/240
Hack away at anything which isn't essential. Do what you love, and do it often. Fazc.
Everything competes for recovery so more assistance is not always the best idea. miked96