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Old 01-22-2013, 10:06 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Fazc View Post
I gave a very vague answer on purpose, it varies so much. I stalled at a 200lbs Bench for 3 years for example, but my deadlift rose to 450lbs relatively quickly. You'll know when you've stalled because well, you've stalled!

The first and most simple change I made was to take a light week every 3rd week. So in effect I went from 1 week cycles to 3 week cycles.

Not so much awareness or experience, no. I'm sure you're perfectly aware and have the experience.

I mean that no matter how experienced you are, and this is probably true moreso at the later stages of your training career, these minor changes in form can potentially yield massive results. Konstantinov for example was already an accomplished 700+ Deadlifter before he tried to roundback his lifts, that one change propelled him from 'good' to 'legendary'. That's the type of thing I'm talking about. It's not awareness or experience, it's the willingness to learn and refine what you already have. Everyone who's posted in this thread has had results which set them apart from the average Joe, so the basics are obviously down pat. But what takes you to the next level are more than likely minor tweaks and not major overhauls.

I have given you powerlifting examples because that is my background but this applies to all areas, to bodybuilding as well.

You should never be unwilling to learn. When you do, you'll stall. I hope you get the point I'm trying to make.
Cool .Thanks for the anecdotes, both yours and Konstantinov's... they give me some of the insight I am seeking. So does your success. Cheers!

Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
Are you building up to that or are you jumping in feet first?
If I understand your question... I am gradually building up to prior performance, then hoping to gradually, but regularly make progress into new territory. I don't have any competition ambition yet, but may if I hit my goals.

Originally Posted by J_Byrd View Post
It is not just about 1 rep Prs, and that is what a lot of people forget. I can still make constant gains being what most would consider a strong total. I just find ways to hit various prs. Is it a 2board, 1 baord, full range. Did I hit a PR triple in the squat? Did I hit a new double PR in the deadlift. I take my lifts for what is there that day. Each person is different. I wouldnt want to miss a squat or raw bench (equipped people miss all the time) and deadlift I have a different idea about that in the gym. I want to miss every now and then so i know where I am missing and can fix that point.

LOL not sure I really answered your question, but here is a straight fwd one. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Look back at your logs, when were you the strongest, what were you doing, and find a way to create that as a peak for a meet!
Thanks. I don't think I can hear too much that 1RMs are not the only measure of progress. I'm looking forward to benchmarking all of my lifts, even support lifts, and then comparing notes to see if the approach made a difference or not. I will definitely look at prior logs and see what was working and not. Great reminder.
"You must have a very strong reason for doing an exercise. If you don't, scrap it and move on." -Jim Wendler

2017 goals:
-Get bigger overall @ 10-12%BF. -Traps big enough to scare women, children and manlets. -Complete clean TRIPLES with weights I've handled for heavy singles
-Curl 70# DBs for reps and knock out 12-15 easy pullups -BP 260x3 MP 160x3 SQ 325x3 DL385x3 BOR 190x3

Gym PRs: BP 265 MP 175 SQ 365 DL 405 BOR 245
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