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Old 09-01-2012, 02:15 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
HOWEVER, he has never failed a drug test anywhere, anytime. Who cares what anyone says about seeing this or that?
So you believe Marion Jones should have her titles reinstated? And Tim Montgomery?

There are actually quite a few people who've never tested positive, but someone else's testimony has implicated them... and eventually they admitted it was all true. Do you think this is unfair? If so, why?

Let's say a guy at work is accused of verbally sexually harassing a woman over months or years, but the only evidence we have is eyewitness testimony from several of his workmates, should we reject that? If not, why is relying solely on eyewitness testimony acceptable for ordinary harassment, but not drug use?

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Sure, maybe he beat the tests, but what does that say about the tests?
It says that drug users and testers are in a constant technological conflict. They develop a test, the users develop a masking agent or new drug, this gets discovered and then a new test is developed, etc.

The tour de france has been dirty since the beginning, I mean for a hundred years. These guys used to put handkerchiefs soaked with ether across their faces to dull the pain of the effort, some of them even put cocaine in their fricking eyes to help keep themselves awake. Cyclists have been doping the longest of any sport, long before any kind of PEDs existed for weightlifting.

Don't feel too sympathetic for Armstrong. He's still a multimillionaire, the companies aren't asking for their endorsement money back. Reserve your sympathy for the athletes who refuse to dope and thus miss out on a placing in competition - because of all the dopers who haven't been caught.

How would you like missing out on a job because someone else had a better resume, and it turns out that he'd cheated on his university exams - just to go from 90 to 95%, surpassing your 91% - and in his last job he'd taken credit for others' work so he could now get a shining reference? That's how it is for the drug-free athlete. Keep your sympathy for them.
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