Originally Posted by BendtheBar
Back to flat pecs, Dave Tate is a good example. Not sure what this means, but...
Food for thought - Powerlifters train for maximal strength. For the bench, this translates to best use of delts and triceps, an arched back, a curved bar path, good use of leg drive, dig traps into bench and use the lats to push off from.
I guess Dave Tate has been training as a powerlifter for years, and would probably have espoused the PL style benching. Could this be the reason for massive delts and triceps but a relatively flat chest?
This isn't to say that flat back elbows flared bench is better. Just wondering if the typical PL style bench isn't the best way to build pecs from a aesthetic standpoint (unless you are a genetic freak like Serge Nubret).
A lot of bodybuilders like Francesco Monteleagre (sp?), Jim Cordova, etc almost exclusively use the DB bench. Some like Francesco (as far as I remember from his log) in fact excluded the barbell bench from his routine.
Cordova's take on chest training - here he talks a bit about barbells and dumbbells.
Legendary Physique Transformations by Jim Cordova