Wannabebig's forum really pissed me off with chaos and pain, I feel like over there if they dont know you they will just tell you to do Starting Strength, why I don't know. I did starting strength as a beginner. Now I have figured out that I just love to train, so why not do chaos and pain.
I am in my 4th week of chaos and pain and honestly my joints feel better now then when I was doing westside. My body feels great right now, and I am actually doing light days, this never happened with westside. Results will not lie, so far I can not say I have any, but I am loving my training sessions now and I am always just thinking of what crazy **** I can do next. This does not happen when you only bench, squat, and deadlift. This program is just plain fun to me, and you have to have fun when you train. Jamie's results can not be argued with, dude is a monster could walk on stage at any moment and also crushes powerlifting. So why not?