I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting visible abs. I know I do, but I also want to be and look strong. Abs are useless without big muscles, and big muscles are useless without real strength that you can use when you need it.
I'm already much stronger than the average dude, even the average gym-going dude, so now it's time to get shredded.
That being said, when someone is starting out they need to lift big and eat plenty to keep up with the lifting so they can build some real muscle. Once you've got some muscle, strip the fat away and reveal the body you want.
Current PRs at 242, raw w/ wraps- 525, 355, 605, 1485
Roboro tui, perimo vester adversarius
(Build yourself, destroy your enemy)