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Old 12-17-2011, 01:25 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by Goat View Post
When I was young, we were taught these principles. Not now. when I question the young about the Founding Fathers, they are ignorant.
Yes, well I can relate to that. Not to the Founding Fathers, but to the equivalents in the UK. It's not the schools (at least over here): there's a limit to how much you can fit into a school curriculum. There's just very little learning outside of school, at least in many cases, and even less interest.

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I am all for charity, but to force upon hard working responsible people is wrong.
But the problem is that if you don't force it, and rely on spontaneous giving, how many would suffer? In an increasingly materialistic world, how many would sacrifice a slightly bigger car or a nicer model of fridge to help people in desperate circumstances? I think there would be a diffusion of responsibility, where everyone relies on his neighbour to do it.

Then there's the problem of fickleness. Charities are in a kind of Darwinian competition. At the moment, 'Help for Heroes' in the UK is worth over 100 million, and while it's an incredibly worthwhile cause, there are others that have seen their coffers emptied as the fashion has switched over to them.
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