Originally Posted by gaspers04
For what it is worth, I'm in total agreement Big Fella.
Glad to know I'm not completely bonkers.
I rambled a lot earlier, but my major belief is that lifters are doing 52 sets of presses on bench day, and a dainty
amount of work on shoulder day. On top of this they have poor bench form, and care little about shoulders.
I prefer to see more balance between shoulder and chest work. Chest is most often over-worked, and shoulders under-worked.
Overall, because of the split mindset, the front delt beat down
from bench pressing that the average gym rat undergoes is "detached" mentally from shoulders, and not seen as important because "it was chest day".
I see it day in and day out...chest workouts with 12+ press sets, and if declines are left out young trainees want 16. (Many don't consider a chest workout complete unless a flat, incline and decline movement is involved). They then also add pec dec and/or flyes. But God forbid you perform more than 3-4 overhead press sets...the same people scream overtraining.
I wish I were making this up but I'm not.