Originally Posted by MuscleandBrawn
I agree completely, and that point actually lays side by side with mine.
Modern programs are more complex because "everything" works for a steroid user. Over the years, this has created training chaos, and a focus on complexity rather then hard work with the basics.
I smell what you are stepping in, M&B.
I think there is a lot of variety that a natural athlete can undertake, but the ability to do "anything" and come out on top is an unreasonable expectation.
I was thinking yesterday, I wonder if steroid users CAN follow M&F type routines and make the kind of progress they describe... or if crap training really is crap training no matter how you slice it. I don't have the experience with steroids that others might have, neither by personal use or friends who use, so I'm a bit naive where this is concerned.